Suggestions for vinyl mastering / pressing / duplication in the UK

candyflip · 29th January 2008, 02:59 AM

Hello,

I am looking to get a two songs of mine pressed to either side of a 7".
I'm wanting to get 100 copies made.
Each track is under 5 minutes long, I would say the style/genre is kinda post-rock, tinged with industrial.. think Nine Inch Nails crossed with Mono
The pieces are quite dynamic..building up to crescendos etc..
I don't give a fcuk about the loudness war..its all about the dynamics for me. Can anyone recommend anywhere/anyone in the UK who could make this possible, who has experience with putting this kinda sound onto vinyl?

I bounced the mixes of each down a while back...i have just opened both in wavelab to check their peak levels and one peaks at -0.922 dB, and the other at -0.588 dB ..
kicking myself a bit now..! especially because i no longer have many of the plugins installed that i used when mixing the tunes, so it's not like i can go back and lower the overall output :(
i've done a fair bit of mastering for CD, and i've recently been reading up about preparing mixes for vinyl, so i will be checking the phase, lower frequencies, and making sure nothing jumps out/de-ess if need be etc..
so..when i do this, is it ok to bring the level down at this point to have each song peak around -6dB (ive heard this is a good workable level..?) or can i afford to push it up to around -2/3dB seeing that im only having one song per side of the vinyl?

thanks people
b

Cellotron · 29th January 2008, 03:08 AM

My tips for mixing for vinyl are at Tips for Mixing for Vinyl Records

Anyway - one of the points is that the peak levels you set digitally on your pre-master doesn't effect the levels on the vinyl - the cutting engineer will set these himself.

Anywhere below say -0.3dBFs is fine for a digital peak level on your pre-master as long as none of the wave forms are clipping. A -6dBFs maximum peak level works fine as well.

A few excellent vinyl mastering studios in UK are:
The Exchange - The Exchange Mastering Studios
Heathmans - Heathmans Mastering Online
Abbey Road - Abbey Road Studios

some European pressing plants:
UK -
HOME: Portal Space Records
...::::home::::....
Independent Pressing - Vinyl Record Manufacturers

Germany -
optimal media production: Vinyl
|| CELEBRATE RECORDS || HOMEPAGE ||
Master Media Productions - Vinyl Record Industries - Schallplattenpresswerk
r.a.n.d.-muzik - record manufacturing

others -
AUDIODISC AB - Välkommen
GZ V!NYL - manufacturing division of GZ Digital Media, a.s.
Record Industry

Best regards,
Steve Berson

candyflip · 29th January 2008, 03:20 AM

thanks very much for your quick reply! all the info is much appreciated, i will check out the links and report back.
thanks again
b

fenderbender. · 29th January 2008, 05:51 AM

I would suggest: Don't worry about de-essing, elliptical equalizing (or, equalising, as you brits say...) or other pre-vinyl processing. Whoever cuts the lacquer should take care of that for you, and likely has better tools to do so.

Mushy · 29th January 2008, 06:24 AM

Nils at the Exchange. He's the dogs bollocks...

The Exchange Mastering Studios

807Recordings · 30th January 2008, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mushy

Nils at the Exchange. He's the dogs bollocks...

The Exchange Mastering Studios

Use him all the time and Highly recommend him.
Just awesome what he does for our records.

The Exchange website has a few places to press with also in their links I believe.
I do Germany Pallas pressing so not so sure about UK.

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29th January 2008, 02:59 AM	#1
candyflip Gear interested Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 15	Suggestions for vinyl mastering / pressing / duplication in the UK Hello, I am looking to get a two songs of mine pressed to either side of a 7". I'm wanting to get 100 copies made. Each track is under 5 minutes long, I would say the style/genre is kinda post-rock, tinged with industrial.. think Nine Inch Nails crossed with Mono The pieces are quite dynamic..building up to crescendos etc.. I don't give a fcuk about the loudness war..its all about the dynamics for me. Can anyone recommend anywhere/anyone in the UK who could make this possible, who has experience with putting this kinda sound onto vinyl? I bounced the mixes of each down a while back...i have just opened both in wavelab to check their peak levels and one peaks at -0.922 dB, and the other at -0.588 dB .. kicking myself a bit now..! especially because i no longer have many of the plugins installed that i used when mixing the tunes, so it's not like i can go back and lower the overall output :( i've done a fair bit of mastering for CD, and i've recently been reading up about preparing mixes for vinyl, so i will be checking the phase, lower frequencies, and making sure nothing jumps out/de-ess if need be etc.. so..when i do this, is it ok to bring the level down at this point to have each song peak around -6dB (ive heard this is a good workable level..?) or can i afford to push it up to around -2/3dB seeing that im only having one song per side of the vinyl? thanks people b

29th January 2008, 03:08 AM	#2
Cellotron Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 1,213	My tips for mixing for vinyl are at Tips for Mixing for Vinyl Records Anyway - one of the points is that the peak levels you set digitally on your pre-master doesn't effect the levels on the vinyl - the cutting engineer will set these himself. Anywhere below say -0.3dBFs is fine for a digital peak level on your pre-master as long as none of the wave forms are clipping. A -6dBFs maximum peak level works fine as well. A few excellent vinyl mastering studios in UK are: The Exchange - The Exchange Mastering Studios Heathmans - Heathmans Mastering Online Abbey Road - Abbey Road Studios some European pressing plants: UK - HOME: Portal Space Records ...::::home::::.... Independent Pressing - Vinyl Record Manufacturers Germany - optimal media production: Vinyl \|\| CELEBRATE RECORDS \|\| HOMEPAGE \|\| Master Media Productions - Vinyl Record Industries - Schallplattenpresswerk r.a.n.d.-muzik - record manufacturing others - AUDIODISC AB - Välkommen GZ V!NYL - manufacturing division of GZ Digital Media, a.s. Record Industry Best regards, Steve Berson __________________ www.totalsonicmastering.com www.invertmusic.org myspace.com/invertstrings

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29th January 2008, 03:20 AM	#3
candyflip Gear interested Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 15	thanks very much for your quick reply! all the info is much appreciated, i will check out the links and report back. thanks again b

29th January 2008, 05:51 AM	#4
fenderbender. Gear nut Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 81	I would suggest: Don't worry about de-essing, elliptical equalizing (or, equalising, as you brits say...) or other pre-vinyl processing. Whoever cuts the lacquer should take care of that for you, and likely has better tools to do so.

29th January 2008, 06:24 AM	#5
Mushy Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 170	Nils at the Exchange. He's the dogs bollocks... The Exchange Mastering Studios