Km184 vs. miktek C5!! help!

Timbo8921 · 24th February 2011

Hey guys. i am looking into buying a ne overhead mic. I need one that is also good for micing acoustic guitars, and strings. I have heard the Miktek C5 is great for this as well as the neumann km184. Does anyone have experience with both? Any advice or input? Thank you!

--Tim

mezzaninefloor · 28th July 2011

Hey Tim, I'd highly recommend the c5's over the km184's. I've had both and I ended up ditching the neumanns for the mikteks. IMO, the c5's actually sort of kill the 184's. They have a smooth top end with an open airy sound whereas the neumanns can be harsh in the HF to my ears that I would imagine would be even worse if you're using a less than desirable pre. Not saying the neumanns are bad by any stretch, but the miktek's sound better to me. They have similar character but I'd say the c5's are a little closer to the sound of gefell m300's which are also fantastic for the money. Miktek makes classy mics. I'll get back on here later when I head to the studio and post samples of a kit that was just recorded at my facility with c5's as overheads.

Hope my biased opinion helps

Joe

Brandt · 7th August 2011

I agree with Joe. I've had pretty much a similar experience. Not that the KM184 is bad it's just to me the Miktek C5 is more natural sounding. I use them alongside some very well respected industry standard mics and they hold up very nicely. They excel on OHs and I've had a lot of success with them on guitars and violins. Every time I use them, I'm glad I bought them.

moonpi · 12th August 2011

I'll basically second (or third) the above sentiments.

I've found the Miktek C5 to be a very different animal in many respects to most of the commonly encountered small diaphragm condensers. I've not used the Geffel M300s, so I cannot speak to any similarities between the two. But, the C5's have a full, yet still very well defined low-frequency response. They are almost like a large diaphragm condenser in their low-end response The top is wonderfully sparkly and airy, but not tinny or strident. I find that they do not get particularly washy sounding in the top end when it comes to cymbals. As with any great microphone, they remain musical and useful while providing the detail. Lots of dimension to be had.

The Miktek C5MP is definitely a top choice. But it's just another screwdriver in that they won't fit every scenario. It all comes down to how you are balancing out the material you've been given with the tools you have available.

Brandt · 13th August 2011

Since my last post I put a pair of C5s on a small chamber choir for a hall performance. No one noticed sonically they were there. That is until I hit "mute" and the choir almost disappeared. The sound from the remote recording was also very good. This is high praise for a mic in this price range. I am now even happier that I bought them.

Johnkenn · 15th September 2011

I demo'd the C5's along with the Josephson C42's...I thought the C5's were much better.

moonpi · 15th September 2011

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Originally Posted by Johnkenn

I demo'd the C5's along with the Josephson C42's...I thought the C5's were much better.

I'm telling ya'. The Miktek C5 will amaze folks. I just heard back from a customer who had purchased the Miktek C5MP. He was already a big fan. But he's had them for about 2 months now and has used them in many more situations. He's raving about them now. He already was, but it's always a really good sign when the praise is trumped by more and louder praise from the same person. It means that the more you get to know about it, the more great traits are exposed rather than discovering hidden faults.

Johnkenn · 20th September 2011

I'm trying out a C5 again right now. For what I do here at home, (acoustic instruments, vocals) I didn't really know if I really needed a pencil considering how good the CV4 sounds. I've got a sinus thing going on and both ears are stopped up, so I can hear a damn thing - but - I recorded some acoustics with it today. From what I could tell, it sounds like it's just ready-made for acoustic. No pulling out or adding frequencies...

russellwolff · 6th October 2011

Got mine recently as well. Loving it on acoustics!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnkenn

I'm trying out a C5 again right now. For what I do here at home, (acoustic instruments, vocals) I didn't really know if I really needed a pencil considering how good the CV4 sounds. I've got a sinus thing going on and both ears are stopped up, so I can hear a damn thing - but - I recorded some acoustics with it today. From what I could tell, it sounds like it's just ready-made for acoustic. No pulling out or adding frequencies...

24th February 2011	#1
Timbo8921 Gear Head Joined: Apr 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 32 Thread Starter	Km184 vs. miktek C5!! help! Hey guys. i am looking into buying a ne overhead mic. I need one that is also good for micing acoustic guitars, and strings. I have heard the Miktek C5 is great for this as well as the neumann km184. Does anyone have experience with both? Any advice or input? Thank you! --Tim

12th August 2011	#4
moonpi Gear maniac Joined: Apr 2006 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 283	I'll basically second (or third) the above sentiments. I've found the Miktek C5 to be a very different animal in many respects to most of the commonly encountered small diaphragm condensers. I've not used the Geffel M300s, so I cannot speak to any similarities between the two. But, the C5's have a full, yet still very well defined low-frequency response. They are almost like a large diaphragm condenser in their low-end response The top is wonderfully sparkly and airy, but not tinny or strident. I find that they do not get particularly washy sounding in the top end when it comes to cymbals. As with any great microphone, they remain musical and useful while providing the detail. Lots of dimension to be had. The Miktek C5MP is definitely a top choice. But it's just another screwdriver in that they won't fit every scenario. It all comes down to how you are balancing out the material you've been given with the tools you have available. __________________ Alan Moon Email: alan (at) frontendaudio (dot) com Front End Audio Sells Gear Tuesday Testers: Hear the Gear Shootouts Product Videos on YouTube: Overviews of Gear Sign up for the FEA e-newsletter: Exclusive Deals "Look out honey, 'cause I'm usin' technology!" - IGGY

15th September 2011	#6
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28th July 2011	#2
mezzaninefloor Gear interested Joined: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 10	Hey Tim, I'd highly recommend the c5's over the km184's. I've had both and I ended up ditching the neumanns for the mikteks. IMO, the c5's actually sort of kill the 184's. They have a smooth top end with an open airy sound whereas the neumanns can be harsh in the HF to my ears that I would imagine would be even worse if you're using a less than desirable pre. Not saying the neumanns are bad by any stretch, but the miktek's sound better to me. They have similar character but I'd say the c5's are a little closer to the sound of gefell m300's which are also fantastic for the money. Miktek makes classy mics. I'll get back on here later when I head to the studio and post samples of a kit that was just recorded at my facility with c5's as overheads. Hope my biased opinion helps Joe

7th August 2011	#3
Brandt Gear interested Joined: Apr 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 29	I agree with Joe. I've had pretty much a similar experience. Not that the KM184 is bad it's just to me the Miktek C5 is more natural sounding. I use them alongside some very well respected industry standard mics and they hold up very nicely. They excel on OHs and I've had a lot of success with them on guitars and violins. Every time I use them, I'm glad I bought them.

13th August 2011	#5
Brandt Gear interested Joined: Apr 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 29	Since my last post I put a pair of C5s on a small chamber choir for a hall performance. No one noticed sonically they were there. That is until I hit "mute" and the choir almost disappeared. The sound from the remote recording was also very good. This is high praise for a mic in this price range. I am now even happier that I bought them.

20th September 2011	#8
Johnkenn Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2005 Location: Nashville Posts: 4,169 2 Reviews written	I'm trying out a C5 again right now. For what I do here at home, (acoustic instruments, vocals) I didn't really know if I really needed a pencil considering how good the CV4 sounds. I've got a sinus thing going on and both ears are stopped up, so I can hear a damn thing - but - I recorded some acoustics with it today. From what I could tell, it sounds like it's just ready-made for acoustic. No pulling out or adding frequencies...