My small room sketch,please suggestions...
Old 18th December 2012
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My small room sketch,please suggestions...

Hello everybody, I'm new here ,so first, love the forum! I got all informations about adjusting a new room here. So thanks a lot, I’ve spent a few months making a room usable for mixing no recording, the room is small 5 mtrs length ,3 mtrs wide and ceiling is sloping (I made a plan to show you )…
I will make 2 basstraps, each measuring 120x60 cm 30 cm deep …5 acoustic panel 120x60cm 15 cm deep , mineral wool Rockwall 60kg/m3…and maybe one big skyline diffuser but im not so sure if its allready ok with my room, I need suggestions.Please let me know if a should make a change sketch???
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Old 18th December 2012
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First I would rotate the mix spot to face the left wall. Here is why.
Positioning the Listening Spot - GIK Acoustics

If you have already made the skyline then use it but what you want to focus on is A LOT of bass trapping. 30cm deep trapping is going to work well but you may want to make them half that thick and cover more corner area. Thickness is important but amount of total corner coverage can yield better results with less thickness of the panels.
The Basics of Room Acoustics: Bass Traps, Diffusion, Panels - GIK Acoustics
Old 18th December 2012
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I made that choise for my mix spot because the ceiling is sloping in other direction, you can see it on my profil room ...you can see on the photos i added yet...
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Old 18th December 2012
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Oh.. Well I would face the wall with the lower side and trap the hell out of all corners. In fact I would put THICK absorption on the whole back wall if you face that way.
Old 18th December 2012
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Is better without skyline diffuser??
Can you make a sketch for me please?
Old 20th December 2012
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????

Could you give me some details about THICK absorption please?Do you think is better without skyline diffuser (or other diffuser) for my room??
Old 20th December 2012
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I would make the panels as thick as possible and not worry about the skyline.
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Could you give me dimension and materials for the panels ??
Old 20th December 2012
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Sorry but I don't really have time to do a layout for you. But basically you want to treat all corners with bass trapping, early reflection points and like I said THICK absorption all over the back wall.
Old 20th December 2012
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ok man thx for suggestions , i will make 2 bass traps 120 cm x 60 cm x 30 cm deep,mineral wool Rockwall 60kg/m3...in early reflection points i will make panels 120cm x 60cm x 16cm deep, and all over the back wall ...when i finish i wil come back with photos and measurements...thx a lot Glenn.
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you could go with a number of different size absorbers to accommodate the room modes. here's one idea on how to lay it out along with some decorative panels for keeping some life in the room.
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Old 20th December 2012
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wooooow!!!!

Cool design Gullfo, i will try tu make somthing well starting with your idea,thx for a lot...if you have another suggestion give me a feedback man.
Old 20th December 2012
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Glenn is the guru of sketch up!! Keep in mind that most of the treatment he is laying out is behind the fabric walls. It can totally be done that way.
Old 20th December 2012
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thing is, if you're building a large coverage of deep absorption, then framing it and covering with cloth and hard bits (to me) is a lot more practical than trying to stuff a bunch of individual units into the space...
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you could go with a number of different size absorbers to accommodate the room modes. here's one idea on how to lay it out along with some decorative panels for keeping some life in the room.

would a design similar to this work for a room that is 13ft x 23ft with 14ft ceilings?
Old 21st December 2012
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depends on the layout. my own room is 18x23x14 peak (11 average) but i go long ways in the room rather than wide. if you have the sloping ceiling then going wide would be good. however i might use some additional tactics like hard surfaces to shape it more since you have the space.
Old 21st December 2012
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depends on the layout. my own room is 18x23x14 peak (11 average) but i go long ways in the room rather than wide. if you have the sloping ceiling then going wide would be good. however i might use some additional tactics like hard surfaces to shape it more since you have the space.


My small room sketch,please suggestions...
Old 22nd December 2012
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Bass traps and acoustic panels for reflexion points...

Question: i like to buy a Rockwall RW3 its good for bass traps (30cm deep) and for thickness panels(7 cm deep)?or should i buy another materials??
Old 26th December 2012
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New room sketch !!!

I made a new sketch, my spot is behind the center of the room now, is that ok, or can be any problems get because i have only 1 meter behind the wall...
I like to buy a Rockwall RW3 thats good for bass traps (30cm deep) and for thickness panels(7 cm deep)?or should i buy another materials ?
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Old 27th December 2012
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the RW3 is 96kg/m3 (6lb/ft3) which is too dense for the depth of trap - consider getting 48kg/m3 (or thereabouts) 100m for the face and then 15-24kg/m3 for the back fill (200mm).
also consider making an absorber on the door and one on the opposite wall (2 per side walls). i'd also still build a 100mm thick cloud on the ceiling over the desk.
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the RW3 is 96kg/m3 (6lb/ft3) which is too dense for the depth of trap - consider getting 48kg/m3 (or thereabouts) 100m for the face and then 15-24kg/m3 for the back fill (200mm).
also consider making an absorber on the door and one on the opposite wall (2 per side walls). i'd also still build a 100mm thick cloud on the ceiling over the desk.
Actually I think you will find Rockwool RW3 is 60kg/m3 (RW5 is 100kg/m3)

RWA45 is a bit lighter at 45kg/m3 (no surprises with that product code )

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Old 29th December 2012
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my spot

My spot is behind the center of the room now, is that ok??? or can be any problems get because i have only 1 meter behind the wall...
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Happy new years everybody 2013 !!!
Old 3rd January 2013
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Monitors placement

Do you think the Diagram F will fits with my room for monitors placement???
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Old 3rd January 2013
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Actually I think you will find Rockwool RW3 is 60kg/m3 (RW5 is 100kg/m3)
thanks! i had 96 on the brain RW45 would be better

on the position - you're going to have to place with the positioning to get it right. i would tend to put the monitors closer to the front wall first and move your seating position accordingly.

i suggest measuring the room acoustics, plan your treatments, and map out the actual pressure levels once treated to see what you have to deal with. with the sloping ceiling you'll typically have a shift of the modal response may be helpful in finding a proper seating position.
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