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Old 31st October 2012   #1
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Another studio layout/placement question

Hi all,

Will be pimping out my studio next week with a bunch of Basotect corner bass traps and acoustic panels, and in the process i'm also pondering about placement of stuff in my studio. Apologies if this kind of thread has been done to death, I just haven't been able to find someone else who's had this exact kinda situation, as the room has a quite awkward layout. I'm not asking for a complete solution here, just a few pointers on what I have planned. If anyone is able to give some advice here I would greatly appreciate it

Here's the details of my current arrangement:
Room size: 20m^2


The room has two concrete support pillars. I've been trying to keep with the "lengthways" approach of having the speakers face the furthest opposite wall, but feel like that might not be the best approach because of the pillars and windows. Also, the bottom wall (in the diagram) is carpeted with a thin layer of fabric (came that way when I got the studio)

Basically, I feel like it might be better to do away with the lengthways approach for this particular room, as below:



Feel this would be better because overall sound would be more balanced and symmetrical (i.e. with pillar placement, couches, and carpeted wall behind rather than on one side.) I don't feel the windows on one side would be too much of a problem, as I'd have panels at the reflection points.

Ultimately, the two questions I wanted to ask are:

a) is it worth making this layout change, or are the different dimensions going to cause more chaos than good?
b) how would you guys go about bass trapping in the corners with the pillars? My initial thought would be to go from the pillar to the top wall (green lines in the diagram.)

In case it's of any use, the kit i'm using consists of:
4x corner bass traps 1100mm x 420 x 420mm
6x wall absorber panels 1000mm x 500 x 70mm

If anyone has any suggestions here I'd love to hear em!

Thanks

Jimbo
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You would need to measure the room to really see if the pillars are effecting things all that much with the following program. You can use the following video.
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You do want to face the short wall though which the following test shows.
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I've been trying to keep with the "lengthways" approach of having the speakers face the furthest opposite wall, but feel like that might not be the best approach because of the pillars and windows.
The pillar as shown on your top drawing is out of the way, so that's okay if not ideal. Though I'd reverse the layout so you face the windows. This has several advantages: It puts the windows in front of you where you don't have to worry about reflections, and it keeps the door out of the way behind you.

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If you are getting low end nulls and peaks from the back wall (all rooms do) then windows in the back can help as some of that low end energy leaves the room through the window. Having the door behind you though is nice as it lets you get the speakers closer to the wall and leaves the front corners open for bass trapping.
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Thanks for the advice guys, will be sure to try a few different configs out. Will do the Room EQ Wizard thing also
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If you are getting low end nulls and peaks from the back wall (all rooms do) then windows in the back can help as some of that low end energy leaves the room through the window.
That's my experience also, although dipole speakers can work very well with glass behind them if you get the treatment right. (absorption right behind the speaker - which you want with any kind of monitor in this sort of setup)

I understand the physics/acoustics considerations for facing the short wall, but I've seen quite a few studios have their control room set up facing the long wall. I've also had a couple of mix rooms set up on the long wall that worked great - mixes translated, reference tracks sounded great, the room measured well, etc. But those rooms were moderately large, with the short wall in not really that short - ~16' for one, 18' in the other. And they needed quite a bit of treatment tweaking.
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In the end it turned out I could fit my desk between the door and the left pillar, so went with the following layout:



Thanks to the lightweight material I could affix a bass trap to the back of the door. Left the very top left corner untrapped as I figured it shouldn't cause too much of an issue with the way everything's set up.

Now to do some testing!
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You layout looks like a great start. Just plan on adding a lot more trapping down the road.
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