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Old 2nd October 2012   #1
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Hello all,

So one of my good friends bought a house and they are letting me keep all of my music gear in their basement...
Drums, bigs amps, and the works....

The room is an old garage and it looks pretty bad. So I am redoing the entire room. I have already ripped out the ceiling and most of the electrical work. The end goal is for a nice practice place.

The room is about 25ftx24ft with 6ftx8ft spot gone in the corner (for a bathroom) there are rooms directly upstairs and it is an older house 9maybe 60's) so the walls and ceiling are very thin. My friend is cool they like music at all times... seriously like 2AM its cool...
however there are renters directly above so being quieter for them would be nice. They don't care as long as they are not sleeping (they are all musicians too)

Anyways the ceiling is about 7ft high (except for a couple of vents)
from there i have close to 8" between the bottom of the floor and where the new ceiling will be which is enough space to if i remember correctly to Isolate the lowest bass frequencies.
What material is cheap and good? I have heard mineral wool is good.
How tight would I pack something like that?

3 of the walls are outside walls (one into ground {all concrete}, one towards garage {all concrete}, and one towards neighbors house {half concrete and half drywall})
the neighbors house seems to be unoccupied and even so the drums can not be heard that well outside, but that wall needs to be re dry walled so I can add some isolation material there too perhaps for those 2AM jam sessions... and maybe some sort of foam window covers... for sound leakage and so gear is not visible when we don't want it to be.

There is one wall that is connected with the rest of the house and we are going to tar it down. So what would be a good way to rebuild it? Should we do concrete cinderblocks that are filled or drywall with foam?

I also am building a stage (boards on top of cinderblocks) since I am keeping over $10k worth of gear and there are too many pipers on the room for comfort... so all the drums and amps will be up on that I am not sure how much that effects sound.

There will be some PA gear in the room... we will be using IEM's for the most part to practice, but if it could sound decent that would be cool too. So probably some bass traps? and put some foam over the concrete walls?
There is always the possibility of doing recording.. which would be a reason to do the acoustics a little better.

I have been in and recorded in a $2 million studio and I realize nothing I could build and design would come nowhere close. Also being the room is not big enough for anything serious and that kind of money isn't being thrown at it.

So what would you guys do? What materials etc?
If you guys needs pics or google skeptup of it I can provide those.

If you guys can't tell I am a college student so sorry for any stupid questions... I have many years of learning to do :-)

Shalom,
Matthias
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Hi Matthias! Since you are still learning, there is an interesting interview here about acoustic treatments for home studios... some good tips!

Acoustic Treatment for Small Studios - Audiofanzine
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OK thanks for the link.

I was looking at some ceiling sound proofing at
http://www.soundproofingcompany.com/...oof-a-ceiling/

which was very helpful...

They recommended using more drywall and green glue. While I had been planning on using more mineral wool.

So I knew that 8 inchs of matieral is roughly what is needed to soundproof I guess I forgot about vibrations.

So How should I the ceiling? Is there a way to hang it (or clip it) so it doesn't come much lower than the rafters?

I am also thinking about reducting the whole room (as the old ones are in kinda bad shape) since the ducts are the metal ones which take up a lot of space and help sound/vibration to travel. So I am thinking about putting the insulated ducts which seem to not be able to carry vibration? or at least not very well.

Any thoughts?
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