Absorption on parallel walls (behind the mixing position) - Gearslutz.com Gearslutz.com
 


All Advertisers
Go Back   Gearslutz.com > The Forums > Studio building / acoustics

Absorption on parallel walls (behind the mixing position)
New Reply New Reply Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 28th August 2012   #1
Gear Head
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Location: Jacksonville, Fl
Posts: 56

Thread Starter
Absorption on parallel walls (behind the mixing position)

This question has probably been asked but I can't find it.
Pertaining to parallel side walls between the listening position and the rear wall, should absorption be placed symmetrically or alternating?

For instance, an "acoustical expert" drew up some plans for my room and has it designed with absorption treatment placed asymmetrically on the side walls behind the mixing position. See the attached picture (I am referring to the green diamond shapes). Absorption on parallel walls (behind the mixing position)-imageuploadedbygearslutz1346189074.536153.jpg

He said this would help to give the room "controlled reflections" but I have always had the understanding that everything in a mixing room should be as symmetrical as possible. Anyone with a good understanding of this scenario have any thoughts?
Famudeedo is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 29th August 2012   #2
Lives for gear
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Location: Germany, Europe
Posts: 576

I'm by no means an expert but

1. These panels you are referring to seem to be diffusors (as opposed to absorbers).

2. Maybe by placing the left diffusor
in the back your friend tried to compensate for the missing bass trap in the corner.
Since diffusors rarely go lower than 400 Hz the effect is probably small.

Let's see what the guys say!
Ciaccona is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 29th August 2012   #3
Lives for gear
 
kasmira's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2011
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 1,257

Send a message via AIM to kasmira
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ciaccona View Post
I'm by no means an expert but

1. These panels you are referring to seem to be diffusors (as opposed to absorbers).
Actually, they seem to be foam or perhaps Auralex SonoSuede panels or something of the like (as not many acoustic companies sell broadband 2x2 traps, other than RealTraps I believe)

They should be symmetrical in terms of your first reflections. Other than that back corner, those 45 degree turned panels also asymmetrical. IMO, thin panels won't really mess your stereo image up behind you (provided they don't cover large portions of the wall) very much.

When you have them asymmetrically like that, it will actually help reduce flutter echo...and behind you is the best place to treat asymmetrically if it is necessary. If it is the only corner option other than the fronts..I would go for it. If you are worried about it, test the difference between having them in that back wall/wall corner vs. the back wall/ceiling corner.
kasmira is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 29th August 2012   #4
Gear Head
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Location: Jacksonville, Fl
Posts: 56

Thread Starter
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ciaccona View Post
I'm by no means an expert but

1. These panels you are referring to seem to be diffusors (as opposed to absorbers).

2. Maybe by placing the left diffusor
in the back your friend tried to compensate for the missing bass trap in the corner.
Since diffusors rarely go lower than 400 Hz the effect is probably small.

Let's see what the guys say!
They are absorbers.. But insightful nonetheless
Famudeedo is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 29th August 2012   #5
Gear Head
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Location: Jacksonville, Fl
Posts: 56

Thread Starter
Kasmira- good idea about trying different approaches. Maybe there is something to the asymmetrical setup..
Famudeedo is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 29th August 2012   #6
Gear Guru
 
Glenn Kuras's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 14,264

Quote:
Originally Posted by Famudeedo View Post
Kasmira- good idea about trying different approaches. Maybe there is something to the asymmetrical setup..
Maybe but you really would need to test to make sure. You can use the following program to test.
Room EQ Wizard Tutorial Video
__________________
Glenn Kuras
GIK Acoustics USA
GIK Acoustics Europe
http://www.gikacoustics.de (German Translation)
770 986 2789 (USA)
+44 (0) 20 7558 8976 (Europe)

Built in Slat design (Scattering/Diffusion) on all Bass Traps click here
Glenn Kuras is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 29th August 2012   #7
Gear Head
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Location: Jacksonville, Fl
Posts: 56

Thread Starter
Glenn, thanks for the link. I'll give it a go
Famudeedo is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 30th August 2012   #8
Gear maniac
 
BriHar's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Location: Winterthur Switzerland
Posts: 283

Possibly your "expert" has some experience in recording studio design. Assymetry in a recording studio is quite common - even desireable. In a control room or mixing room however, one strives for symmetry.
The proposal in question could seriously skew the sound field.
__________________
No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
BriHar is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 30th August 2012   #9
Lives for gear
 
gullfo's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Location: Old Tappan, NJ USA
Posts: 1,316

Send a message via Skype™ to gullfo
there is physical symmetry and acoustic symmetry. there may be some differences in the plan to compensate for some of the off center things like the window etc but i think you could only verify this by testing the space and making adjustments based on the measurements.
__________________
Glenn

www.runnel.com
gullfo is offline  
Reply With Quote
New Reply New Reply Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook  Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter  Submit Thread to LinkedIn LinkedIn 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Similar Threads
Thread Thread starter Forum Replies Last Post
Who here parallel compresses their entire mix? Methlab So much gear, so little time! 60 3rd September 2012 08:02 PM
On the mixing of Seal's "Killer","Prayer for the Dying", "Don't Cry" thethrillfactor So much gear, so little time! 71 2nd April 2009 05:42 PM
Does anyone have the mid 90's Mix Magazine with Andy Wallace on the cover? Matt Hepworth So much gear, so little time! 12 14th February 2008 12:49 AM
On the Fly Mixing Anyone? audiothings Remote Possibilities in Acoustic Music & Location Recording 0 25th June 2007 01:11 PM
Compression on a send (parallel compression) crabtwins Mastering forum 2 25th January 2007 07:41 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:48 PM.

Home - Search Forum - Contact Us - Terms Of Use / Privacy Policy - Advertise on Gearslutz - All Advertisers - Top
 
 
Powered by vBulletin®
Gearslutz.com LTD - UK Company Number 7597610.
Registered Office - 35 Ballards Lane, London, N3 1XW.
Hosted by Nimbus Hosting.

By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies.

SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.