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Old 24th August 2012   #1
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Help with treating a small room for recording?

Its a small room (sorry don't know the exactly dimensions cos I'm not there at the moment to measure) and its also my bedroom! I'm only a teenager so I don't have access to a real recording studio and there aren't any extra rooms in my apartment! So it has a loft bed on the right wall and underneath is a desk that I was thinking of using to set up my gear. On the opposite wall there are bookshelves. I know this is definatly NOT ideal for recording but any tips would be great. Also I can't spend a lot of money so some do-it-yourself things would be great. (This is weird but I know that Ralf Hutter and Florian Schnieder of Kraftwerk just rented a room for their studio and covered the walls with egg cartons.... is this a stupid idea or would it be helpfull? I mean they recorded Autobahn in a room with egg cartons on the walls so it must have worked alright!)
Also I have an upright piano but that's not in my room...its in my living room, so if I want to record that (obviously I can't cover my living room walls with egg cartons! My parents would freak out!) any tips on getting a good sound?
The instruments that I will be recording with are: Polivoks synth, voice, piano, acoustic guitar (w/o a pickup), saxophone, flute.
So any suggestions would be really helpful!
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no one has any advice? :(
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You'll need lots of absorption, especially in the low end. I'd do a search on "DIY basstraps" to get a look at what people have had success with in this forum (also check out the sub forum for bass traps and acoustic panels)

Check out the sticky on the top of this page for room treatment guides.

As for diffusion, the easiest/most affordable ones to build yourself are probably these DIY stepped diffusers that I designed.

Hope this helps,

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Here are a few articles and videos to get you started. No egg cartons will no work. They have been tested in a lab and have very little if no absorption to them.
Acoustic Primer - Room Setup, Testing, Treatments
Tutorial Video Basics, Bass traps, Diffusion, Panels
Video: Bass Traps and Understanding Low Frequencies
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Here are a few articles and videos to get you started. No egg cartons will no work. They have been tested in a lab and have very little if no absorption to them.
Acoustic Primer - Room Setup, Testing, Treatments
Tutorial Video Basics, Bass traps, Diffusion, Panels
Video: Bass Traps and Understanding Low Frequencies

Thanks! Those sites are really helpful!
Haha i didnt think the egg cartons would work.
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Thanks! Those sites are really helpful!
Haha i didnt think the egg cartons would work.
Trust me you are not the first nor the last to want to use them. Heck when I was 11 years old I built a wall from chain link fence and egg carts thinking it would do something. All it did was totally piss off my father.
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No egg cartons will no work.
Crap! What am I gonna do with all these friken eggs?

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All it did was totally piss off my father.
Then it wasn't a total loss.
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blow out the content and use them as volumetric diffusors.

nah...trusting these methods is like believing in the easter bunny.

speaking of which...
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All it did was totally piss off my father.
Then it wasn't a total loss.

I suppose that would depend on his father - when my sons totally pissed me off - they found it was always a loss........

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I suppose that would depend on his father - when my sons totally pissed me off - they found it was always a loss........

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Yea, it would not have been prudent to harass my father. And my sons know those boundaries too!
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I think in the reference to Kraftwerk, they were talking about proper acoustic foam or basotect which is sculpted in the form often referred to as egg-carton.
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Yea, it would not have been prudent to harass my father. And my sons know those boundaries too!
As do my grandsons (that would be 4) .......... the apples do not fall far from the tree...

LOL........

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I suppose that would depend on his father - when my sons totally pissed me off - they found it was always a loss........

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My father did tell me years ago he found it pretty impressive that a 11 year old kid would go out and visit restaurant after restaurant asking them to save egg cartons, then finding a chain link fence in a field to make a wall.
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I had a small room as well, and what really help was carpet on the floor, and sleeping bags / curtains on the wall.

(did'nt have any money... so I went to the help center next to my house, and with 10$ I completly soud proofed my room from reverberation. )


Now i'm am working and have more money, so I use wedge.... this way you can threat the room for a "sound" you like.

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My father did tell me years ago he found it pretty impressive that a 11 year old kid would go out and visit restaurant after restaurant asking them to save egg cartons, then finding a chain link fence in a field to make a wall.
I would have as well............

I came home from work one day to find the front end of my wife's car completely taken apart.......

I walked into the house and asked what the heck was going on - my 13 y.o. son looked at me and said that the CV joints needed replacement - so he took it upon himself to tell his mom the parts to buy - she bought them - and he was rebuilding her front end (doing a brake job at the same time - with replacement rotors and wheel bearings - figured it ws a smart thing to do while he had it apart anyway)

I looked at him and said "I'm impressed that you would do this for your mother - but don't you think it would have made more sense to wait until I got home so we could talk our way through it before hand?"

To which he replied:

"I've been helping you work on cars for 4 years now - do you think I haven't figured things out along the way? I'm not stupid you know."

I looked at his mother and told her not to worry - it would come out just fine - and it did.

We had over 200,000 miles on her car when we finally traded it in - with the work he did on it still in place........

Dad's are always proud of their sons when they show initiative.

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That's impressive, especially at 13. I've done my share of suspension maintenance and upgrades - it can get physical down there!
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