4th August 2012
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#1 | | Gear nut
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Thread Starter | Is there a point for big monitors in small room?
As title says: Is there any point at all to have huge speakers in a small room?
Wouldn't it be better to have small speakers in a small room?
I have Genelec 8050A's, however I have to move to a smaller place, and I'm concerned whether I should sell them.
The room size is 14'5 x 11'4 (4.39m x 3.45m).
Is it possible to treat the room to benefit from such huge speakers or I'm better off buying new monitors?
Sorry for a stupid question, not much I understand on acoustics.
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#2 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by BitseK As title says: Is there any point at all to have huge speakers in a small room?
Wouldn't it be better to have small speakers in a small room?
I have Genelec 8050A's, however I have to move to a smaller place, and I'm concerned whether I should sell them.
The room size is 14'5 x 11'4 (4.39 x 3.45).
Is it possible to treat the room to benefit from such huge speakers or I'm better off buying new monitors?
Sorry for a stupid question, not much I understand on acoustics. | Good news. The 8050As are not even close to being to large for your room.
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#3 | | Gear nut
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I see, however I know many guys using twice smaller monitors, in a double the size of the room, so I was confused.
Some local people also called me crazy for even thinking bout putting them in such a small room :D
Where could I read more into this? Really keen to find out how stuff like this works.
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#4 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by BitseK Some local people also called me crazy for even thinking bout putting them in such a small room :D
Where could I read more into this? Really keen to find out how stuff like this works. | Ask what happens and why they think they are too large. Remember, before increased efficiencies in drivers and cheap power, about the smallest used in any critical listening environment was the JBL 4311!
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#6 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by BitseK As title says: Is there any point at all to have huge speakers in a small room?
Wouldn't it be better to have small speakers in a small room?
I have Genelec 8050A's, however I have to move to a smaller place, and I'm concerned whether I should sell them.
The room size is 14'5 x 11'4 (4.39m x 3.45m).
Is it possible to treat the room to benefit from such huge speakers or I'm better off buying new monitors?
Sorry for a stupid question, not much I understand on acoustics.
.. | I put three way loudspeakers with long throw 12" drivers in the room of about 3.5x3.5x2.6m and they works well...
You can see it here:
More info here: MyRoom Acoustic Design
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#7 | | Gear nut
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Well that's soothing to hear, thanks!
Problem 2#: What are my options to sound isolating or sound proofing (not sure which is the correct term, but reducing the sound that the neighbors hear) in a flat? Where could I read about it?
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#8 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by BitseK Well that's soothing to hear, thanks!
Problem 2#: What are my options to sound isolating or sound proofing (not sure which is the correct term, but reducing the sound that the neighbors hear) in a flat? Where could I read about it?
..... | If your room is in the flat... so you probably have not much options... best is to listen at low levels, and at times when you don't disturb your neighbors.
It is low frequency isolation which is the biggest problem.
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#9 | | Gear nut
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Well it's a first floor, and there is a second floor with neighbors up there, nothing else. I suppose some ceiling isolation is what I need to look for?
Lol I heard of people building a room inside of a room, sounds hilarious, but does that work?
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#10 | | Gear maniac
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The 8050a's are my personal favorites. My go-to pair.
That said, if you find that it's not the sound you're looking for, once they are setup or prior, the 8040a's are also a fantastic monitor as well.
Just food for thought. The 8040's have plenty of bass for most styles of music, and I've used them extensively all across the board with great results, albeit from a small size.
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#11 | | Gear nut
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Nah I love them too, some people hate the highs coming from them, but they sound perfect to me.
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#12 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by BitseK Well it's a first floor, and there is a second floor with neighbors up there, nothing else. I suppose some ceiling isolation is what I need to look for?
Lol I heard of people building a room inside of a room, sounds hilarious, but does that work?
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Gearslutz App | If your flat is not placed directly on the ground, and if you have room or basement below, real additional floating floor (with concrete slab and springs) become nearly impossible mission and not only extremely expensive. Low frequency sound isolation is possible only with high mass of boundaries, and your maximum allowed load may not be enough for all this. If you build room inside of your existing room, which is too light you will obtain resonant frequency which is too high in audible range... and sometimes you may make things even worse.
Also you need extra room volume for this type of isolation (0.5m minimum from all dimensions) , so you may left with non-practical and tiny room (with right sound isolation but not usable for anything other) where you still need to build acoustical treatment, which also "eat" room volume(!)
Here are some illustrations which came from Thomas Jouanjean (Northward Acoustics) facebook page:
etc...
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4th August 2012
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#13 | | Gear nut
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Ok thanks for the help.
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