3rd August 2012
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#1 | | Gear nut
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 117
Thread Starter | Your opinion about my room
I am going to buy Roxul Safe n' Sound 16'' for bass traps (6'' thick (dual layered)) and 24'' for reflection points (3'' thick). But I want to have your opinions on how to place them because my room is pretty big and is not perfectly square shaped.
-The ceiling is 8' high.
-The walls and ceiling are made with normal gyproc and the floor is a floating floor.
Here is the picture of the room:
P.S. I do not have any measurement microphone for the moment (only a basic computer microphone), so I cannot make any measurement for the moment.
If you have any other idea, let me know! Thanks.
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3rd August 2012
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#3 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jan 2012 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Golitan11,
I presume you know this, but just in case you don't: instead of dealing with 3rd party photo upload service, you can upload your photo directly to the thread by first clicking the "Go Advanced" button (beside "Post Quick Reply"), and then clicking the attachment icon (looks like a paper clip).
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3rd August 2012
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#4 | | Gear nut
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 117
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Here it is sorry.
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3rd August 2012
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#5 | | Gear Guru
Joined: Jul 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA
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3rd August 2012
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#6 | | Gear nut
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 117
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I already watched all your videos and all Ethan's articles. I just wanted to know your opinion. Thanks!
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3rd August 2012
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#7 | | Gear nut
Joined: Dec 2011
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I have four main questions:
1. Do I absolutely need a measurement microphone to make some test before I make any acoustic modification in my room?
2. Can I keep this setup or I need to change some drawer or bed postion?
3. Does it mather if I do not place any basstrap in the dorr corner (because the door blocks)?
4. Instead of making 24'' straddle corner bass traps, can I make 16'' basstrap (6'' thick) with air gap (because I do not want the bass traps to take all the place).
Thanks for your help!
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3rd August 2012
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#8 | | Gear Guru
Joined: Jul 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 14,244
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1. Do I absolutely need a measurement microphone to make some test before I make any acoustic modification in my room?
| If you want to test the room then yes I recommend the right mike. Keep in mind though if you don't understand what you are looking at then the best test for you is to see how well your mixes translate. If you are finding that you don't have to run out to the car to check all of your mixes then you know your room is in good shape. Quote: |
2. Can I keep this setup or I need to change some drawer or bed postion?
| You need center your set up on the wall. Summitry is very important, as talked about in one of the videos I linked for you. Quote: |
3. Does it mather if I do not place any basstrap in the dorr corner (because the door blocks)?
| There are 12 corners in a room so if you have to skip that one then just move on to the next. Quote: |
4. Instead of making 24'' straddle corner bass traps, can I make 16'' basstrap (6'' thick) with air gap (because I do not want the bass traps to take all the place).
| I really recommend 24". 16 might help but................................. |
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3rd August 2012
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#9 | | Gear nut
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 117
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Ok here are my others questions:
1. Should I:
a) Buy two packs of 8 24'', cover four vertical corners (two 3'' panels each) and cover reflection points.
b) Buy two packs of 12 16'', cover four vertical corners (four 3'' panels each (two panels thick so 6'')) and cover reflection points.
c) Buy one pack of 8 24'' and 12 16'', cover three vertical corner with the 16'' (four 3'' panels each (two panels thick so 6'') and cover reflection points with the 24''.
d) Buy one pack of 8 24'' and 12 16'', cover four vertical corners with the 24'' and the 16'' (four 3'' panels each (two panels thick so 6'' (one 24'' and one 16'')) and cover four reflection points with the last 16'' panels.
P.S. In conclusion, I only have the money to buy two packs (I have the choice between 12 16'' and 8 24''). I just want to know which ones to buy (I can buy these two different packs or two of the same pack) and use them for what.
2. I center my desk with the 15,5' wall or the 13,5' wall (keep in mind that I keep my desk on the actual wall)?
3. Does the bed and the two drawers in the left corners mather (both obstruct a corner)? What about the small 6' large portion on the right (do I treat this part, does it mather) and the things on my desk?
4. I am a bit confused about this but when you are at your listening position, will you hear more bass or less bass with bass traps?
5. Is the rear wall too far for placing reflection points absorption panels? Also, do I need to place absoption panels behind speakers?
6. Are "under monitors" foams mandatory between my monitors and my wooden desk (like Auralex MoPads)? If yes, I can I build my own (which material)?
Thanks, you help me a lot!
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6th August 2012
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#10 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2009 Location: State of Insomnia, sleepless USA
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For the corner with a door (have the same problem), i made a soffit trap for above the door, and a trap on a stand with caster wheels that i can move as needed.
RE basstraps: they should help tighten up the bass, so you're hearing what is coming out of the speaker rather than what your room does to the sound.
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6th August 2012
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#11 | | Gear nut
Joined: Dec 2011
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Ô Glenn... can you please answer the questions 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 (AwwDeOhh already answered Question 5). Thanks!
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7th August 2012
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#12 | | Gear nut
Joined: Dec 2011
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Or another person who can answer these questions.
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8th August 2012
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#13 | | Gear nut
Joined: Dec 2011
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No one can answer these? I really want to finish with that and buy my stuff...
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8th August 2012
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#14 | | Gear Guru
Joined: Jul 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 14,244
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P.S. In conclusion, I only have the money to buy two packs (I have the choice between 12 16'' and 8 24''). I just want to know which ones to buy (I can buy these two different packs or two of the same pack) and use them for what.
| Go with 24"x4" in depth. Quote: |
2. I center my desk with the 15,5' wall or the 13,5' wall (keep in mind that I keep my desk on the actual wall)?
| Positioning Listening Spot Video Tutorial Quote: |
4. I am a bit confused about this but when you are at your listening position, will you hear more bass or less bass with bass traps?
| More, even, tight low end. Quote: |
5. Is the rear wall too far for placing reflection points absorption panels? Also, do I need to place absoption panels behind speakers?
| Those are 2 questions. 
It depends on how close the wall is to the listening spot. In your case it is close enough to be a early reflection point.
You only need panels behind the speakers if treating SBIR. Learning SBIR | Speaker Boundary Interference Response |
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8th August 2012
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#15 | | Gear nut
Joined: Dec 2011
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Yeah but there are no 4'' thick model, only a 3'' model (made in 24'' or 16'' large). That's why I was asking this question.
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9th August 2012
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#16 | | Gear nut
Joined: Mar 2011 Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 107
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Originally Posted by Golitan11 Yeah but there are no 4'' thick model, only a 3'' model (made in 24'' or 16'' large). That's why I was asking this question. |  Owens Corning and Roxul's stuff come in usually 47" x 23" x 2" slices.
For the broadbands, try to go at least 4". Make sure to also leave an air gap.
Divide the length of the wall where your computer is in half and put your computer monitor in the center. This is the position you want to be in.
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9th August 2012
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#17 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2012 Location: Texas
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If you can get some measuring equipment, I wouldnt do a thing until then. Your flying a bit blind without knowing where you are in an accurate fashion. Then you will have the ability to measure each change and know whats working and its effect.
Measurement tools are a must for room treatment imo.
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9th August 2012
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#18 | | Gear nut
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 117
Thread Starter |
Sorry Cegor but the Roxul Safe n' Sound that I want to buy is only made in 3'' thick. Go on their webste if you want to be sure.
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9th August 2012
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#19 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2009 Location: State of Insomnia, sleepless USA
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Originally Posted by Golitan11 Sorry Cegor but the Roxul Safe n' Sound that I want to buy is only made in 3'' thick. Go on their webste if you want to be sure. | so make your traps 6" thick!
will work better, especially if you can space them off the wall.
You have two identical dimentions in your room... which will indicate your low end untreated will be a modal mess. You can't overdo bass trapping in that room.
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