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Old 2nd August 2012   #1
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How do I connect studs to brick wall when using Genieclips?

Hi all,

I'm Justin from the Netherlands with a question on sound isolation on walls.

Will I be able to directly screw a 2x4 stud wall to my exterior concrete walls when I am going to use glass insulation, genieclips, hat channels, 2x 12,5 mm drywall with Green Glue in between on those studs?

As I am not a construction expert I would rather mount the stud frames to the walls then create a free floating wooden box.

I understand the genieclip system decouples the walls and so creates a room in a room. Does it not?

Or do I have to use rubber wall achors to connect the studs to the walls?

Looks redundant.


I am building an attic studio for vocal & acoustic/electric guitar practice/recording.

And mixing demo songs in the box with two Yamaha speakers.

the room is 7 x 4 x 2,4 meters and is above the master bedroom on the third floor.

- 1 pitched (roof) wall
- 3 concrete brick walls. (one to the neighbours)
- floor made of armoured hollow bricks with a concrete top layer.
- Ceiling made of wooden joists

Outside traffic noise is constant at 55/60 db.

I've attached some pics below

I am thinking of building a 2x4 stud frame on all walls and in between the horizontal beams on the roofwall. And use Genieclips on all of them.

For the ceiling I want to put Genieclips directly on the joists.

For the floor I'm thinking of 10 mm QuitGround 375 Rubber Underlayment. I don't think I have the height for a floating floor. And I will not record live drums or bass cabinets.

Thanks in advance for the help.

Cheers,

Justin

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My understanding of the clips says yes you can screw the studs to the wall; as you say the clip does the decoupling and as such the isolation. However, they are very expensive and if you could build the free floating room it would offer as much isolation as the genie clips but without the added cost.
My understanding is limited & I am recycling information from other threads but this was the general consensus, search for threads on drywall thicknesses as I'm certain Rod Gervais posted this info
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Hi Andre,

Thanks a lot for your quick reply and tips.

I have thought about staggered stud walls. But I am not sure if I can mount them directly to the exterior walls. Any ideas?

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I'm not sure with staggered stud systems I'm sorry, I have only researched room in room & the genie clip systems for an upcoming home studio project

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No problem.

I just found an interesting alternative for Genieclips on homerecording.be.

Nevima - IVI-Soundbatten

Their system uses felt to decouple walls, ceilings and floors. It gets very good reviews on homerecording.be (which has a good reputation).

Could be usefull checking out.

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