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Old 27th July 2012   #1
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Question Test sweeps...play through one main at a time?

When measuring at the mix position for the effects of room treatments, should sweeps be played back through one main only (i.e. in mono)?

I've noticed different results from sweeps played through the left, right or both mains.

If the treatment being measured is symetrical (e.g. middle of the back wall) which channel(s) would be best for playing back sweeps?

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Speakers will always look different from each other in a room in the frequency response. Exact mic placement is necessary in order to measure both speakers at once, but it seems to be tricky to set this up perfectly. Usually, the easiest way to measure is to measure each speaker individually for ETC measurements and frequency response. If you want, you can always average the two graphs to get a picture of total freq response at the listening position. To show bass response and modal activity, using both speakers is helpful to drive more room modes (in other words, show modal ringing better in waterfall graphs in the sub 400hz range). To test SBIR, you will want to measure each speaker individually.

In this thread I posed some questions about testing. I didn't receive all the answers I was looking for but got a couple good responses none the less. Perhaps it will be helpful to you: Verify my testing procedure

To sum up, different ways to measure show different types of results. If you are trying to figure out speaker placement by viewing SBIR, you should be looking at certain ms ranges while measuring one speaker at a time. If you have a comb filtering reflection coming from somewhere, test each speaker at a time and look at the ETC. Find out the distance by the time the reflection reached the mic, and see if its possible that distance is where the comb filtering is coming from. If you are looking to see how much your traps have affected modal activity, a single speaker or subwoofer in a tricorner in your room with a mic in the opposite tricorner will show modal activity best. If you just want to show measurements in listening position, my first paragraph has the easiest way to test this. Test speakers individually, average the responses. For sub 400hz waterfalls, test with both speakers on.
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I'm mostly interested to see what's going on below ~400Hz at this point, so playback in both mains it is.

I don't understand how tri-corner measurements are helpful. I understand that they give you the clearest picture of modal response, but if even if the impact of your treatments look great on tri-corner measurements, if you see/hear nothing at the listening position, should'nt you move/modify the treatments?
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thanks!
I'm mostly interested to see what's going on below ~400Hz at this point, so playback in both mains it is.

I don't understand how tri-corner measurements are helpful. I understand that they give you the clearest picture of modal response, but if even if the impact of your treatments look great on tri-corner measurements, if you see/hear nothing at the listening position, should'nt you move/modify the treatments?
The point is only to show what modal dampening you are doing. Its moreso to show the job that treatment is doing on a modal scale. It only really shows how well the traps work, not how good or bad it sounds. Hope that makes sense?
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