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Old 27th July 2012   #1
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Can i treat this room?

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I am using my iphone app to post this, so i dont know if its being posted at a right place.
So i just moved into a new house and has a big basement. The size is 7'x12.75'x25
Do i have any luck to treat this room?
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The room seems plenty big enough to me; there are quite a few people on here who have smaller....if that's what you're asking?
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Every Thing is treatable to a certain extent . Depends on how much you want to spend . Apparently a low ceiling is the worst scenario though . The pros will chime in soon and give you some expert advice .....Stay tuned .
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Yes you are in the right place!

Yes that is a good sized room!

Yes it is treatable!

Only things that are scary about basements are the fact that they are usually brick/concrete, which is good and bad. Good on an isolation level, but bad on an acoustic level. And as stated, low ceiling height makes it hard to work absorption on the ceiling which is needed often, especially if hard floors.

The fact that your length is almost double your width, you may have some strong modal peaks. Combine this with having hard walls and you can get some nasty problems. But, the room is large, so it makes it a bit easier to treat!

The thing about small rooms is there is a lot of compromise on space, so we end up building thinner panels with higher gas flow resistance to compensate, but it still doesn't end up doing as much justice as larger panels with lighter material.

For instance, you could take an entire 3 foot deep area, the entire 12.75' width of the place, and just fill with cheap, fluffy attic insulation - all the while you still have a great amount of floor space left - and it will do some massive damage to low frequencies. Porous Absorber Calculator - Results
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The fact that your length is almost double your width, you may have some strong modal peaks. Combine this with having hard walls and you can get some nasty problems. But, the room is large, so it makes it a bit easier to treat!
Right which I like to call the tunnel effect. BTW when setting up in this room you want to make darn sure you are facing the short wall. More here.
Positioning Listening Spot Video Tutorial

Couple other things that might be helpful.
Basics, Bass traps, Diffusion, Panels video
GIK Acoustics: Early / First Reflection Points
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Thats for the usefull info.
So u guys do not believe that the 7' ceiling is a problem.
Should i make defusers or absorbers for the ceiling?
I already started with the bass traps. I will take some pictures today of the room.
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Use absorption for the ceiling.
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thanx Glenn
and how far do i put the speakers away from the wall? is it ok to be away for 3'? or do i need to go closer to the wall? sorry if i sound like a noob cuz i am in acoustics science.
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thanx Glenn
and how far do i put the speakers away from the wall? is it ok to be away for 3'? or do i need to go closer to the wall? sorry if i sound like a noob cuz i am in acoustics science.
Speaker position is very tricky in most rooms. 3' could sound good. Right at the wall could sound best. But 5' away could sound best. The odd thing is, too, that moving speakers even 4" can dramatically change the sound.

I would recommend getting REW and running some tests. You can download it for free, just search google. A laptop, mic, and speakers is all you need. I would try setting them up all the way against the wall. Pull them out into the room in 4-6" increments. I know this is a little ridiculous sounding, but it is the most critical portion of setting up a room, and more importantly, its free.
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I would start with the speakers around 5' from the front wall and test with the following program.
REW Room EQ Wizard Room Measurement Tutorial video

As kasmira said you really have to test the room to find the best spot.
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do i test the room before or after the treatment?
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do i test the room before or after the treatment?
Both.
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