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Old 18th July 2012   #1
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My new dream studio

Hi.
And thank you for a very nice and sharing community.

My wife and I have bought a very big house and I will finally have my dream studio
But I want to plan this well and do it right from the start.

I have availeble one floor of the house and the drawing off that floor is in my attachment.
The rooms that is practical to use are the rooms studio A-D.
The height in these rooms are 3.4 meters.

At this point I am only thinking on what rooms I will use for what.
And what walls to put up or walls to take down.
The house have four floors and this is first floor.
Above there is two floors where we will live.
And below there is a cellar.

I will wait with noise/rooms within rooms/treatment etc and take one step at a time..
In one way it would be interesting to just hear what you would have done but I will still share my current thoughts.

No matter how I look at it it seems logical to use studio c as control room.
And I consider to use either studio A or D as the main live room.
But do you think it is worth it to take down the wall between studio A and studio B to gain a larger live room?

I understand that this thread is very "open" but I really feel I need some input at the time

Thank you.
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I'll ask a few questions and let the guys with the know-how do the heavy lifting


Studio C is central, which is nice. But it looks kinda square. Not usually a good thing, unless you want to spend the resources trapping the issues. Do you have dimensions? (Not m2 but LxWxH). Those would probably help a bit.
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I would use A and D. One for the live room and the other for the control room. For the most part you want to use the largest rooms for both. More about room acoustics here.
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The dimensions of studio C are 613 cm(l) x 576 cm(w) x 340 cm(h).
So it's not as square as it seems.
I measured the room within 12 db(from peak to null) from 50 hz to about 150 hz.
And that was without any treatmeant.
So I think it will work if I go for it.

I will measure the dimensions off all rooms later today.
So that is taken into consideration also.
But the big rooms are something around 10 m x 5.5 m x 3.4 m.

But do you think it is worth it to take down the wall between studio A and B to get a larger live room?
The big rooms sounds pretty darn good as they stand already.
Been playing some drums in there.

Again, thank you all for replying.
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But do you think it is worth it to take down the wall between studio A and B to get a larger live room?
That looks like a tempting option, assuming the wall between them is not a key structural element for the floors above.

A+B would be my choice for the control room and you'd be able to use part of it as an equipment closet.

Nice to see you have some height to work with. Minimizing footfall noise from above will be key.
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what about C as control room. then...

continue "eastern" wall of stairs straight up so it meets the wall between B and C...

take down "southern" wall of B and the "eastern" wall of A that has the door in it, thus making, yes, a bigger live room, but also one with less 90 degree corners and areas...

then maybe use part of B for vocal booth..

but then you have all that space in D! not sure what to do ...

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Thank you for your suggestion t_d it was very good!
But I forgot to mention that I have one limitation.
The walls in the hallway has asbestos in them so they are sealed and cannot be touched.
A shame really because I really liked your suggestion.

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Would you have used A and B as control room?
And D as live room then?

By the way the dimensions of the big rooms are 947 cm x 574 cm x 340 cm.
It feels a little overkill to use one of them as control room in my mind.
They feel pretty big when you stand in them.
And it will be a pain in the arse to heat up in the winter
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...And it will be a pain in the arse to heat up in the winter...
If it's properly isolated and insulated, for use as a studio / control room, I don't think this will be a problem
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If it's properly isolated and insulated, for use as a studio / control room, I don't think this will be a problem
I guess you are right.
We'll see when the winter come

I have decided on three scenarios.

1.
Use C as control room.
Take down the wall between A and B and use as one live room.

2.
Use C as control room.
Use D as main live room and B as a vocal/synth/etc room.

3.
Use D as control room.
Take down the wall between A and B and use as one live room.

I feel drawn to 1 but that is maybe because that was my first thought.
If I use 3 I get to use alot of the available space but feel the control room become a little to big and less "cozy".
Besides I don't get a window between the rooms which a lot of clients will not like.
2 is on bottom off my list but is flexible and kind off cool.

But I am really unsure if it is worth it to take down the wall between A and B.
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My suggestion would be to use B & C as one big control room, where you also would have some space in the back for a couch

A or D could be your live room. And the other could be a chill room. Or your office. Maybe even an accomodation for your customers.

If you really need two live rooms, you may need to find a good way how to setup your control room, so you can watch/see both live rooms.

Since you have high ceilings, I can imagine that you can get a very good sound even with only one live room after treating. As long as you only tracks small bands.
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Don't use C as the control room as it is square or close to it. Use A or D!! you have been warned. ha ha ha
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My suggestion would be to use B & C as one big control room, where you also would have some space in the back for a couch

A or D could be your live room. And the other could be a chill room. Or your office. Maybe even an accomodation for your customers.
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. . . and additional distance for diffusion at the back, enough space for base trapping and the whole room will be less "squared".

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Besides I (don't) get a window between the rooms which a lot of clients will (not) like.
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Thank you for all answers.
I think it is a good suggestion to take down the wall between B and C and use as control room.

But It feels a little large so I measure the room C with room eq wizard.
So that can be taken into consideration.
I think it looks pretty decent for beeing not treated.

The speakers go down to about 50 hz and only right speaker is measured.
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. . . suggestion to take down the wall between B and C and use as control room.

But It feels a little large . . .
Having called your thread "my new dream studio", one of the rooms, that comes in my mind, is Darius Amsterdam Mastering.
First post: interior size = 42m2. Looking at all space taken by treatment, i'd guess the total floor area is somewhere close to the 55m2 you have with B and C.
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Studio - top view - interior size = 42m2

. . . maybe a little large, but isn't that beautiful . . ?
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I think it's important to have enough space in the control room. Especially when customers also sit around.
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I think if you want to have 2 large live rooms the obvious option is knocking down the wall between b and c and using that as a control room.

Otherwise.. A for control, B machine, C small live, D large live would work for me.

Main point from me, I agree you need a big not square control room.
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Another possibility if you don't want to join B & C.

C = Control room
B = Machine room (for your noisy 960L and sonic sensitive EMT140 )
D = Live room
A = Office or chilling room including 100" screen plus PS3
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Having called your thread "my new dream studio", one of the rooms, that comes in my mind, is Darius Amsterdam Mastering.
First post: interior size = 42m2. Looking at all space taken by treatment, i'd guess the total floor area is somewhere close to the 55m2 you have with B and C.

. . . maybe a little large, but isn't that beautiful . . ?
Thanks for the nice words, but I should warn you that these plans are heavily doctored/photoshoped... So don't rely on them.

All the membranes and 2/3 of the treatment is missing, The overall shape of the room has been distorted too.

Sorry guys, I just could not post the real plans on a forum.

Though I hope they can help a bit in a way anyway!

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Can you attach a floor plan of the 2nd floor? If you have a kitchen or another heavily trafficked area above A or D it might not be the best option to use them as live rooms unless you are heavily treating them. Squeaky floors and whatnot.

The hallway already serves as an existing airlock between A and D. I would either make A or D the control room. Leave B as your storage/server room and C as your lounge.
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