Acoustic treatment & nearfields - Gearslutz.com Gearslutz.com
 


All Advertisers
Go Back   Gearslutz.com > The Forums > Studio building / acoustics

Acoustic treatment & nearfields
New Reply New Reply Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 17th June 2012   #1
Gear nut
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 89

Thread Starter
Acoustic treatment & nearfields

Hi there

I had a search through a couple of old threads on this topic and found the discussion to be inconclusive.

I'm always looking to flatten the frequency response of my mixing environment and was wondering what the theory is when it comes to using acoustic treatment with near field monitors. I am currently studying audio production and one of my tutors told me not to bother pinking my room since I am using near field monitors, but I still felt unsure.

I'm using the far-from-perfect Samson Resolv a8 monitors, with a JBL LSR2310SP sub (that I normally use as a seat :P ) which passes everything above 80hz to the Samson's. The monitors sit about 75cm from my ears.
The room is about 4m by 5m with the speakers being 30cm from one of the 4m walls.

I realise this information is probably not enough to be helpful, but I'd rather not rant too long in the original post.

Any advice or info is greatly appreciated.
subconscious nz is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 17th June 2012   #2
Banned
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 60

I am a big fan of at least treating the entire back wall that your speakers face with some sort of foam or absorbtion material . I've read that at least 25% of the room should be treated and 50% is optimal .
Namias is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 17th June 2012   #3
Gear addict
 
John White's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 376

Just a few generic responses come to mind-

First, treatment is typically independent on the kind of monitors wether near field or otherwise. A near field response would seem to have advantages in that there would likely have be less influence from the room. However, sitting position is often dictated by the size of the room so that a larger room- further sitting position is often aided by the more forgiving aspects of a larger space.

Regardless, yes, you probably need quite a bit of treatment in that very small room. You may benefit from room measurement software such as REW, however, generic treatment advice will likely give you several steps in the right direction. Lot's of great info in the "stickies".

You may have phase issues with your sub out of alignment with your monitors.

Lastly, you wouldn't need any treatment with headphones.
__________________
-john
John White is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 17th June 2012   #4
Gear nut
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 89

Thread Starter
Thanks for the responses so far.

I have access to a calibration mic & pink noise generator/eq, so will be having a go at balancing the room out a bit with the main out EQ on my Motu 828mk3 - hoping to compensate for any humps in my speaker's response also.

While I understand the principle of phase & alignment, I can't hear any difference with the sub being forward from the desk a bit. It helps me 'feel' the low end more as I always felt that the sub freqs were passing underneath my seat when I mixed with it under the table (they certainly sound louder when I move back from it).
subconscious nz is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 17th June 2012   #5
Gear Guru
 
Glenn Kuras's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 14,244

Quote:
Originally Posted by subconscious nz View Post
Thanks for the responses so far.

I have access to a calibration mic & pink noise generator/eq, so will be having a go at balancing the room out a bit with the main out EQ on my Motu 828mk3 - hoping to compensate for any humps in my speaker's response also.

While I understand the principle of phase & alignment, I can't hear any difference with the sub being forward from the desk a bit. It helps me 'feel' the low end more as I always felt that the sub freqs were passing underneath my seat when I mixed with it under the table (they certainly sound louder when I move back from it).
You can use the following program to test your room. BTW I would not EQ your room.
REW Room EQ Wizard Room Measurement Tutorial video
__________________
Glenn Kuras
GIK Acoustics USA
GIK Acoustics Europe
http://www.gikacoustics.de (German Translation)
770 986 2789 (USA)
+44 (0) 20 7558 8976 (Europe)

Built in Slat design (Scattering/Diffusion) on all Bass Traps click here
Glenn Kuras is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 17th June 2012   #6
Gear nut
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 89

Thread Starter
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn Kuras View Post
You can use the following program to test your room. BTW I would not EQ your room.
REW Room EQ Wizard Room Measurement Tutorial video
Funny, when I googled 'why not to EQ your studio' I came up with this as the top result:

Room treatment is not important, just eq your speakers

and you are the second poster

It's awesome to be able to communicate with professionals in the field. What's your opinion of using an EQ to compensate for non-linearity inherent in my monitor speakers?
subconscious nz is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 17th June 2012   #7
Gear Guru
 
Glenn Kuras's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 14,244

If your monitors are that far off (I kind of doubt it) then I would get new ones.
Glenn Kuras is offline  
Reply With Quote
New Reply New Reply Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook  Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter  Submit Thread to LinkedIn LinkedIn 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Similar Threads
Thread Thread starter Forum Replies Last Post
wavepanels acoustic treatment opinions? dee why Bass traps, acoustic panels, foam etc 10 3rd February 2007 10:12 AM
What are your thoughts to these plans for room treatment? kosmokrator High end 3 29th January 2007 02:07 PM
4050 for Vocals and Acoustic? oceantracks Remote Possibilities in Acoustic Music & Location Recording 15 23rd August 2006 10:28 AM
Remote truck acoustic treatment advice Dr. Cuso Remote Possibilities in Acoustic Music & Location Recording 17 8th June 2006 06:41 PM
article on Disney Hall acoustics hollywood_steve Remote Possibilities in Acoustic Music & Location Recording 9 25th November 2003 03:21 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:02 AM.

Home - Search Forum - Contact Us - Terms Of Use / Privacy Policy - Advertise on Gearslutz - All Advertisers - Top
 
 
Powered by vBulletin®
Gearslutz.com LTD - UK Company Number 7597610.
Registered Office - 35 Ballards Lane, London, N3 1XW.
Hosted by Nimbus Hosting.

By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies.

SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.