desperate for sound treatment advice for home studio

bunda · 25th January 2012

ok i officially have a designated area in the house to do music instead of the corner of my bedroom. Theres a few issues i have at the moment i have a bedroom on the aposing side of my right wall and i know ideally it would be good to have some sort of treatment for the entire room to stop the noise getting in/out but due to lack of funds i have only put up some 50mm thick flat sound proofing/absorbing whatever you want to call it foam on the right wall.As you will see from the photos i put up i have a little bit of perforated foam some acoustic (dark grey) and some matress (green) left over. i guess my concerns are that the right wall is foam and the left wall has nothing so i was gonna cover both the left and right wall with curtains, and leave the back wall which has a window and the wall behind my speakers as are. im mainly looking to mix the music i make on my computer but im also gonna be recording instruments in this room so i need or want the room to have some life to it as aposed to being dead and im just not sure what my best option is. other than the tae my stuffs on theres a coffee table and a couch in the room any help about how to go about this would be great sorry about the long winded explanation

MikeInOttawa · 25th January 2012

Wow- first post and you've been here for 3 years. And you have an LA-610mk2? Awesome!

Like you I went from a bedroom music room to a dedicated room, and it was much worse. Having thick blinds, carpet, and a comforter on the bed did a lot to help in the old room, and now that's gone, and the difference was stunning.

I'm not far ahead of you in terms of room treatment, but what really made an improvement for me was corner bass traps. I got 4 GIK 244 bass traps, and the difference was absolutely startling. Night and day.

Another thing that will help you is Auralex Mopads to put under your monitors. The textbooks aren't such a good a solution. Maybe if you can put your monitors on stands to raise them up a bit to ear level that might also help. The wooden floor may cause some troubles too. Maybe add a carpet to your room?

So to start I'd go with corner bass traps, Auralex Mopads, and a carpet?

That's as far as I've gotten myself, so I can't offer any more suggestions as yet. But I highly recommend the bass traps.

jwl · 26th January 2012

RealTraps - Acoustic Basics

darkbuddha · 26th January 2012

You've got a bunch of reading to do... all of the basic info you need is already posted and waiting to be read here. Start with the two thread below (stickies at the top of this forum) and you'll be well on your way to getting your space sorted.

Acoustics/Treatment Reference Guide - LOOK HERE!

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/studi...er-v2-1-a.html

I went through the same process just this past month (actually, 6 weeks or so)... built my own speaker stands (way way way better than them sitting on the desk) and absorbers & bass traps and went from this:

...to this...

So get reading and get building. Good luck!

ritelec · 26th January 2012

Hi bunda.

Also go thru here:

Acoustics/Treatment Reference Guide - LOOK HERE!

lots of info there....... and there's more.

You'll also read how the foam (and rugs) eat up higher frequencies. You would want to go after the lower frequencies as they are harder to get and then the highs as needed as they are easier (with foam and or rug).
People buy and or make their own bass traps and broad band absorbers and add wood slats to bring back the highs, and have wood floors...etc...

There's a room analyzer in the link called REW. Check it out and it's free. Check out Fuzz Measure if your on a mac, it's not free but worth getting.

Personally, everything in my joint is carpeted. It's an all cement room that I carpeted years ago for live playing with bands (and carpeted before reading about acoustics), it worked out well as far as when playing was done, you left the room and your ears weren't ringing all night. However, after reading up on this stuff, and building traps and measuring, I can see (and hear) how I need to get highs and reverb back into the room.

I also use the auralex pads. On phase to I will be going with sorbothane.

Frequently Asked Questions about Sorbothane Shock and Vibration Solutions

Read on.

All the best.

bunda · 28th January 2012

thanks to all you guys for your advice and links looks like ive got quite a bit more work to do

but i might put some pics up when its done thanks again for the advice

vocom · 28th January 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkbuddha

I went through the same process just this past month (actually, 6 weeks or so)... built my own speaker stands (way way way better than them sitting on the desk) and absorbers & bass traps and went from this:

...to this...

DB, you just turned the lights off! HAH!

Actually I'd like to see the new room with the lights on. Clearly you've added a lot of trapping - can see the traps up high. How many traps did you add?

I do like the look of your two-tone speaker stands and can now see how you have the rears placed.

darkbuddha · 29th January 2012

Please forgive the slight hi-jacking...

Quote:

Originally Posted by vocom

DB, you just turned the lights off! HAH!

Actually I'd like to see the new room with the lights on. Clearly you've added a lot of trapping - can see the traps up high. How many traps did you add?

I do like the look of your two-tone speaker stands and can now see how you have the rears placed.

Exactly... turn down the lights and it's all done. Yeah, right.

I actually usually keep the room lighted like that normally. I prefer the ambience and helps me stay focused forward in the room (on my work!). Total number of treatment elements is 28, but to skip further hi-jacking, I posted the pics and info on the treatment here: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/7499334-post39.html

captshiznit · 29th January 2012

Just thought i'd pop in say thanks for the links guys i'm also new.

JLiRD808 · 29th January 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkbuddha

... and went from this:

...to this...

So get reading and get building. Good luck!

Nice b4/after!!!

Did u build those panels?

darkbuddha · 31st January 2012

Yep... built them all. It's not really all that tough, just time consuming, and very worthwhile.

25th January 2012	#1
bunda Gear interested Joined: May 2009 Posts: 2 Thread Starter	desperate for sound treatment advice for home studio ok i officially have a designated area in the house to do music instead of the corner of my bedroom. Theres a few issues i have at the moment i have a bedroom on the aposing side of my right wall and i know ideally it would be good to have some sort of treatment for the entire room to stop the noise getting in/out but due to lack of funds i have only put up some 50mm thick flat sound proofing/absorbing whatever you want to call it foam on the right wall.As you will see from the photos i put up i have a little bit of perforated foam some acoustic (dark grey) and some matress (green) left over. i guess my concerns are that the right wall is foam and the left wall has nothing so i was gonna cover both the left and right wall with curtains, and leave the back wall which has a window and the wall behind my speakers as are. im mainly looking to mix the music i make on my computer but im also gonna be recording instruments in this room so i need or want the room to have some life to it as aposed to being dead and im just not sure what my best option is. other than the tae my stuffs on theres a coffee table and a couch in the room any help about how to go about this would be great sorry about the long winded explanation Attached Thumbnails

26th January 2012	#4
darkbuddha Gear maniac Joined: Nov 2011 Location: Sarasota, FL USA Posts: 174	You've got a bunch of reading to do... all of the basic info you need is already posted and waiting to be read here. Start with the two thread below (stickies at the top of this forum) and you'll be well on your way to getting your space sorted. Acoustics/Treatment Reference Guide - LOOK HERE! http://www.gearslutz.com/board/studi...er-v2-1-a.html I went through the same process just this past month (actually, 6 weeks or so)... built my own speaker stands (way way way better than them sitting on the desk) and absorbers & bass traps and went from this: ...to this... So get reading and get building. Good luck! __________________ -Wyatt Composer, researcher, educator

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25th January 2012	#2
MikeInOttawa Gear Head Joined: Oct 2009 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 63 1 Review written	Wow- first post and you've been here for 3 years. And you have an LA-610mk2? Awesome! Like you I went from a bedroom music room to a dedicated room, and it was much worse. Having thick blinds, carpet, and a comforter on the bed did a lot to help in the old room, and now that's gone, and the difference was stunning. I'm not far ahead of you in terms of room treatment, but what really made an improvement for me was corner bass traps. I got 4 GIK 244 bass traps, and the difference was absolutely startling. Night and day. Another thing that will help you is Auralex Mopads to put under your monitors. The textbooks aren't such a good a solution. Maybe if you can put your monitors on stands to raise them up a bit to ear level that might also help. The wooden floor may cause some troubles too. Maybe add a carpet to your room? So to start I'd go with corner bass traps, Auralex Mopads, and a carpet? That's as far as I've gotten myself, so I can't offer any more suggestions as yet. But I highly recommend the bass traps.

26th January 2012	#3
jwl Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2006 Location: southern Maine Posts: 1,316	RealTraps - Acoustic Basics

26th January 2012	#5
ritelec Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2010 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 1,293	Hi bunda. Also go thru here: Acoustics/Treatment Reference Guide - LOOK HERE! lots of info there....... and there's more. You'll also read how the foam (and rugs) eat up higher frequencies. You would want to go after the lower frequencies as they are harder to get and then the highs as needed as they are easier (with foam and or rug). People buy and or make their own bass traps and broad band absorbers and add wood slats to bring back the highs, and have wood floors...etc... There's a room analyzer in the link called REW. Check it out and it's free. Check out Fuzz Measure if your on a mac, it's not free but worth getting. Personally, everything in my joint is carpeted. It's an all cement room that I carpeted years ago for live playing with bands (and carpeted before reading about acoustics), it worked out well as far as when playing was done, you left the room and your ears weren't ringing all night. However, after reading up on this stuff, and building traps and measuring, I can see (and hear) how I need to get highs and reverb back into the room. I also use the auralex pads. On phase to I will be going with sorbothane. Frequently Asked Questions about Sorbothane Shock and Vibration Solutions Read on. All the best.

28th January 2012	#6
bunda Gear interested Joined: May 2009 Posts: 2 Thread Starter	thanks to all you guys for your advice and links looks like ive got quite a bit more work to do but i might put some pics up when its done thanks again for the advice

29th January 2012	#9
captshiznit Gear maniac Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 188	Just thought i'd pop in say thanks for the links guys i'm also new.

31st January 2012	#11
darkbuddha Gear maniac Joined: Nov 2011 Location: Sarasota, FL USA Posts: 174	Yep... built them all. It's not really all that tough, just time consuming, and very worthwhile.