Attaching cloud panels to ceiling... hit duct work, looking for suggestions

Darhgo · 14th July 2011

Hello!

So, today I installed the majority of the treatment I had purchased from GIK in my control room space. Went up well, and what a difference!

I have 2 panels left, to go on the ceiling above my listening position.

Turns out there is an air duct running the length of the room where I have to drill 4 of the 8 holes. I'm looking for suggestions on how to deal with this.

A ledgerboard is not a great option, in order to hit joists, I'd have to extend it quite a bit, and if there's a way to get around this without one that'd be ideal.

shaggy8685 · 14th July 2011

Do you have any pictures of your space for a reference?

What about the idea of suspending the panels from cables that span the width of the room with anchors attached to the walls into the studs?

Darhgo · 14th July 2011

here we go.

that's a good idea with the line, but the ceiling is already so low I think that would cause some issues. also i need to make this as unobtrusive as possible.

will it work if i just drill into the vent? are there anchors i could use?

shaggy8685 · 14th July 2011

So the drywall touches the duct work?

Usually there is at least a 1"x2" around the duct at least as a frame for the drywall. I wouldn't drill into the duct work if it were my home. How heavy are the panels? You could always try to liquid nail a firing strip to the ceiling the width of your panels. Then screw something into that. The problem then becomes what do you do when you want to take them down. But if you screw a hole into the duct work I would think that is a bigger problem later on.

If half of the panel is attached to a glued firing strip and the other half is anchored to a stud that panel, provided it doesn't weigh a ton, isn't going anywhere.

PaulP · 14th July 2011

What I do in situations like this, and for walls as well, is to span the space between the joists, or studs, with a piece of 3/4" plywood (attached with 5/16" or 3/8" lag bolts, 3-4" long) that has T-nuts inserted on the backside. I then screw the bolts/hooks/eye bolts into the T-nuts from the front. You don't want to screw around with something heavy over your head.

If you have an airspace between the panel and the ceiling, and use chains to hang the panels, the hooks/eye bolts don't have line up with the panel. The chains can be at an angle. you can then screw your hooks into joists all around.

Darhgo · 14th July 2011

Well, the comment shaggy made made me think something weird was going on. So I went and borrowed a hardcore stud finder, and figured out the problem.

We have joists in my house, evidently, that are 2 boards with diagonal supports in them. When the diagonal meets the long piece there's a metal plate thing there. I didn't know that.

I was actually drilling into a joist, just hit an inconvenient section.

The issues were... first, my drill sucks. Second, my stud finder sucked, and third, when I looked up in the hole, I saw metal from the aforementioned plate, so I assumed I hit duct.

Anyway, resolved! I got different hook mounts, and the rest of the holes were just sheetrock, so it went in just fine. I've attached a pic of the finished product. They are *very* solid. And wow that pic is out of focus. Sorry about that.

Thank you all for your assistance and suggestions!

shaggy8685 · 14th July 2011

Happy to hear you got it sorted out.

You got these then.

Google Image Result for http://www.homeadditionplus.com/images/home_pics/Floor_Joist_Cross_Bracing.jpg

Darhgo · 14th July 2011

Something like that.

i think this is what they look like from the explanation the guy on the phone gave me last year...

Google Image Result for http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rxrYt2FZWK8/SMkhiBII-pI/AAAAAAAAAMA/JX4h4X32-S0/s200/truss+joist+6

PaulP · 14th July 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darhgo

I got different hook mounts, and the rest of the holes were just sheetrock, so it went in just fine.

Pray you don't have any humidity problems, sheetrock is just cardboard and chalk.

Darhgo · 14th July 2011

It might be drywall, I don't know. I don't have humidity issues, though, had a projector and speakers mounted in the ceiling for 2 years, no problem. my guitars are out and stay in tune for months.

seems very solid.

14th July 2011	#1
Darhgo Gear maniac Joined: Dec 2009 Location: Montgomery Village, MD Posts: 207 Thread Starter	Attaching cloud panels to ceiling... hit duct work, looking for suggestions Hello! So, today I installed the majority of the treatment I had purchased from GIK in my control room space. Went up well, and what a difference! I have 2 panels left, to go on the ceiling above my listening position. Turns out there is an air duct running the length of the room where I have to drill 4 of the 8 holes. I'm looking for suggestions on how to deal with this. A ledgerboard is not a great option, in order to hit joists, I'd have to extend it quite a bit, and if there's a way to get around this without one that'd be ideal.

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shaggy8685 Gear Head Joined: Oct 2009 Location: Earth Posts: 72	Do you have any pictures of your space for a reference? What about the idea of suspending the panels from cables that span the width of the room with anchors attached to the walls into the studs? __________________ lives to hook it all together.

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Darhgo Gear maniac Joined: Dec 2009 Location: Montgomery Village, MD Posts: 207 Thread Starter	here we go. that's a good idea with the line, but the ceiling is already so low I think that would cause some issues. also i need to make this as unobtrusive as possible. will it work if i just drill into the vent? are there anchors i could use? Attached Thumbnails

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Darhgo Gear maniac Joined: Dec 2009 Location: Montgomery Village, MD Posts: 207 Thread Starter	Well, the comment shaggy made made me think something weird was going on. So I went and borrowed a hardcore stud finder, and figured out the problem. We have joists in my house, evidently, that are 2 boards with diagonal supports in them. When the diagonal meets the long piece there's a metal plate thing there. I didn't know that. I was actually drilling into a joist, just hit an inconvenient section. The issues were... first, my drill sucks. Second, my stud finder sucked, and third, when I looked up in the hole, I saw metal from the aforementioned plate, so I assumed I hit duct. Anyway, resolved! I got different hook mounts, and the rest of the holes were just sheetrock, so it went in just fine. I've attached a pic of the finished product. They are very solid. And wow that pic is out of focus. Sorry about that. Thank you all for your assistance and suggestions! Attached Thumbnails

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PaulP Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,196	What I do in situations like this, and for walls as well, is to span the space between the joists, or studs, with a piece of 3/4" plywood (attached with 5/16" or 3/8" lag bolts, 3-4" long) that has T-nuts inserted on the backside. I then screw the bolts/hooks/eye bolts into the T-nuts from the front. You don't want to screw around with something heavy over your head. If you have an airspace between the panel and the ceiling, and use chains to hang the panels, the hooks/eye bolts don't have line up with the panel. The chains can be at an angle. you can then screw your hooks into joists all around.