Acoustic advice

biggun1234 · 8th July 2011

Hey all,
I'm trying to finish my live room for recording and need a little help. The room is unfortunatley small. (However, there is a long hallway outside the room that gives great ambience when I open the door and stick a mic out there)

Anyway, I record drums, bass, electric guitars, and vocals mostly. Attached are some pictures of the treatment I have.

It is 11X16 with a 16 foot ceiling at the peak at 10 feet at the sides where it slopes down.

Room treatment consists of:

right sloped ceiling (6 gik qrd gridfusors)
Left sloped ceiling (6 more gik qrd gridfusors)
peak of ceiling ( 2 4 inch fiberglass panels)
rear wall (3 2" 703 traps and 6 crappy aurelx)
right side wall (two gik screen panels folded in corners and 3 2" glass panels on wall)
Left side wall (4 gik tri traps in corners and a random piece of aurlex)
Take a look at these pictures:
ront wall has no treatment

I'm still not quite happy with the sound for drums, it sounds a bit boxy still. Can you all recommend what kind of treatment I should add and where? Any other advice?

biggun1234 · 8th July 2011

also, I put two sheets of plywood on the floor (which is carpeted)

jhbrandt · 8th July 2011

Boxy - would indicate that you need more trapping... I would recommend moving the traps that you have to some of the horizontal 'corners' (wall/ceiling) & see if that helps. Plus adding some things like polys on the flat walls to aid in dispersion. Polys can be stuffed with light insulation to further battle the 'box'.

Cheers,
John

Glenn Kuras · 8th July 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhbrandt

Boxy - would indicate that you need more trapping... I would recommend moving the traps that you have to some of the horizontal 'corners' (wall/ceiling) & see if that helps. Plus adding some things like polys on the flat walls to aid in dispersion. Polys can be stuffed with light insulation to further battle the 'box'.

Cheers,
John

Yes John is totally right. Since you bought our product please feel free to email me (or Bryan) through our company website to give you personal consulting on your room. We are there for you!

biggun1234 · 8th July 2011

Thank you both for your time! I will defeat this infamous boxiness

jhbrandt · 19th July 2011

Polys will indeed help (placed just about anywhere) in a tracking room situation. In the tracking room Asymmetry is your friend and by introducing a variety of surfaces you increase the possible 'good' positions for recording - either for the mic or the instrument. Experimentation is required.. just don't get too close to a diffuser or poly with a mic.

Cheers,
John

8th July 2011	#1
biggun1234 Gear nut Joined: May 2007 Posts: 119 Thread Starter	Acoustic advice Hey all, I'm trying to finish my live room for recording and need a little help. The room is unfortunatley small. (However, there is a long hallway outside the room that gives great ambience when I open the door and stick a mic out there) Anyway, I record drums, bass, electric guitars, and vocals mostly. Attached are some pictures of the treatment I have. It is 11X16 with a 16 foot ceiling at the peak at 10 feet at the sides where it slopes down. Room treatment consists of: right sloped ceiling (6 gik qrd gridfusors) Left sloped ceiling (6 more gik qrd gridfusors) peak of ceiling ( 2 4 inch fiberglass panels) rear wall (3 2" 703 traps and 6 crappy aurelx) right side wall (two gik screen panels folded in corners and 3 2" glass panels on wall) Left side wall (4 gik tri traps in corners and a random piece of aurlex) Take a look at these pictures: ront wall has no treatment I'm still not quite happy with the sound for drums, it sounds a bit boxy still. Can you all recommend what kind of treatment I should add and where? Any other advice? Attached Thumbnails

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8th July 2011	#3
jhbrandt Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2009 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Posts: 2,715	Boxy - would indicate that you need more trapping... I would recommend moving the traps that you have to some of the horizontal 'corners' (wall/ceiling) & see if that helps. Plus adding some things like polys on the flat walls to aid in dispersion. Polys can be stuffed with light insulation to further battle the 'box'. Cheers, John

19th July 2011	#6
jhbrandt Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2009 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Posts: 2,715	Polys will indeed help (placed just about anywhere) in a tracking room situation. In the tracking room Asymmetry is your friend and by introducing a variety of surfaces you increase the possible 'good' positions for recording - either for the mic or the instrument. Experimentation is required.. just don't get too close to a diffuser or poly with a mic. Cheers, John