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Old 14th June 2011   #1
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What's your thoughts on this recording studio concept?

So the norm in recording studio construction design is typically to have it designed to handle one item per component type, e.g., one mixer, one main monitor set etc. Some facilities have multiple studios to accomodate multiple setups but few seem to be designed around enabling a single studio have multiple items per component type.

I'm interested in building one studio that can scale to multiple setups that are used within a single production. I see myself sitting behind and recording a drum kit, within a section of other drum kits, within a big recording hall full of instruments. I see myself mixing with matrixes of speaker sets. I see myself using different mixers for different things. I see myself scaling out each sound source type and each sound source with signal chain combos to choose from. I see the possibility of scaling a production to multiple producers, multiple mixers, basically multiple of everything as long as it can further enrich the music productions. All of this requires the recording facility to be designed to handle that. It would be cool to have a drum producer collaborate with a bass guitar mixer and stuff to that nature within a music facility that houses that kind of music collaboration...

What's your take on this, how would you go about approaching this kind of construction project? It seems like one critical aspect of this kind of construction design is to have enough capacity in the building itself.
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You might need to win the lotto or be a certain Phillies pitcher first. Sounds like a lot of stuff.
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I do not see this working for a variety of reasons..... not the least of which is the market place.

In a world where the existing (excellent) big box studios are pretty much fighting to stay alive........ and are trying to figure out how to streamline in order to make that happen - what makes you think a market exists that would support anything with this sort of overhead?

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I do not see this working for a variety of reasons..... not the least of which is the market place.

In a world where the existing (excellent) big box studios are pretty much fighting to stay alive........ and are trying to figure out how to streamline in order to make that happen - what makes you think a market exists that would support anything with this sort of overhead?

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I see myself going to the bank, and be laughed at ... HARD..... straight in my face.......

Geat real, the recording industry is dead, since the internet age artists wisened up and are doing a lot more DYI, at home, with consumer of prosumer stuff. They don't need production halls like megastores with different setups.

nowadays artists only want to spend a bit more money, if they get extraordinary value, outside what they can read and learn on the internet. Or have access to exceptional upmarket gear, as they've outgrown their home facillity capacity.

Face it: The traditional industry, dictated by the big 5 is transitioning rapidly towards fragmented independent homebrew..... There are no major labels to cater for, with megabudgets, like 20 years ago. It's over.....
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I see myself going to the bank, and be laughed at ... HARD..... straight in my face.......

Geat real, the recording industry is dead, since the internet age artists wisened up and are doing a lot more DYI, at home, with consumer of prosumer stuff. They don't need production halls like megastores with different setups.

nowadays artists only want to spend a bit more money, if they get extraordinary value, outside what they can read and learn on the internet. Or have access to exceptional upmarket gear, as they've outgrown their home facillity capacity.

Face it: The traditional industry, dictated by the big 5 is transitioning rapidly towards fragmented independent homebrew..... There are no major labels to cater for, with megabudgets, like 20 years ago. It's over.....
Don't get me wrong, I do see where these thoughts are coming from and I understand them completely. It's a sad thing that the system is turning the music industry into a liability for the society creating a very difficult business landscape for companies within this industry. However, money is in this case not important or an issue (since I have access to it), what I'm now focusing on is to really do something amazing in music while I'm still alive.
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... what I'm now focusing on is to really do something amazing in music while I'm still alive.
That's a nice attitude. I hope it works out well for you.
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Sir Michael Philip, is that you? or is it Sir James Paul?

Anyway, here ya go

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Cool. This concept gave me some new ideas!
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Cool. This concept gave me some new ideas!

Notice the lack of entryway to the mixing room. That way, they put you in there, seal the wall up, and you can spend your life in there! Not like you'll need anything else with all that gear, and it'll provide a bit of protection from debt guys trying to collect for the millions of dollars of gear =)
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So the norm in recording studio construction design is typically to have it designed to handle one item per component type, e.g., one mixer, one main monitor set etc. Some facilities have multiple studios to accomodate multiple setups but few seem to be designed around enabling a single studio have multiple items per component type.

I'm interested in building one studio that can scale to multiple setups that are used within a single production. I see myself sitting behind and recording a drum kit, within a section of other drum kits, within a big recording hall full of instruments. I see myself mixing with matrixes of speaker sets. I see myself using different mixers for different things. I see myself scaling out each sound source type and each sound source with signal chain combos to choose from. I see the possibility of scaling a production to multiple producers, multiple mixers, basically multiple of everything as long as it can further enrich the music productions. All of this requires the recording facility to be designed to handle that. It would be cool to have a drum producer collaborate with a bass guitar mixer and stuff to that nature within a music facility that houses that kind of music collaboration...

What's your take on this, how would you go about approaching this kind of construction project? It seems like one critical aspect of this kind of construction design is to have enough capacity in the building itself.
Dream away.
You are entitled to have that fun.
But
You can't afford it.
Don't need it.
Will never get to use it all.

If you do really have that much money then why not focus on what you actually want to do musically not just spend money and build a play pen full of big boys toys. And then hope to find a use for it all.

You should determine your goal, what is actually needed to do *that*, and then buy exactly , but no more than that , the equipment that will accomplish your ends.

And if you haven't seen most studios then you don't really know the norm. I have seen studios with multiple mixers.
Many of them have alternate equipment they can cable up.

Lots of them can't make the rent anymore.
So just spending money on stuff is not a well thought out strategy.
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Don't get me wrong, I do see where these thoughts are coming from and I understand them completely. It's a sad thing that the system is turning the music industry into a liability for the society creating a very difficult business landscape for companies within this industry. However, money is in this case not important or an issue (since I have access to it), what I'm now focusing on is to really do something amazing in music while I'm still alive.
Yes! I am with you there! (...really do something amazing while I'm still alive)

It seems that one of my jobs in designing and consulting for studio builds seems to be 'translator'. -- To translate the client's dream into something realistically possible... If you would like to put heads together on this project, PM me.

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But
You can't afford it.
Don't need it.
Will never get to use it all.


Dude, what do we know? The OP has not revealed his identity, and there are, after all, people with lots of money, or at least, "access" to it. Who *needs* a diamond? If man has to justify desire with reason, most people will stop having sex

We have seen the Miraverse unfold in front of our eyes, I say anything is possible! I'd be happy if this studio simply existed somewhere, even if it never produces a note of music, and I never get to work in it!
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Less is sooo much more. If you write songs, start with an acoustic or a piano. If your not that person then find the artist who has the talent and material that needs to be brought to life. When you have all that figured out there are plenty of world class studios that already exist. A shotgun approach to engineering can never be a good idea. If something required some esoteric setup, rent that equipment for that specific purpose. I don't understand any of your threads or posts, they make absolutely no sense to me. What is the song that needs the setup your asking for? Sounds like the duey cox story Walk hard. We need more goats!
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question

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what makes you think a market exists that would support anything with this sort of overhead
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money is in this case not important or an issue (since I have access to it
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market? I don need no stinkin market!




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