Hat Channel -What's it called in the Netherlands?!

[Planet Sutcliffe]

Hi,

I'm de-coupling a ceiling and I need to use hat channel. Does anyone know what this is called in Holland?

I do speak Dutch, but this is really specific and I have no idea what it's called here. . .

I had a search on google and on here but, didn't turn up the answer.

Any clues appreciated,

Thanks,

Robin

[SAC]

Resilient channel...

...stated in English, and that is a proper English term anywhere in the world....but I do not know the equivalent term in Dutch...

[Planet Sutcliffe]

Ok cool thanks!

[Hannes_F]

Hat channel is exactly what you don't use (as far as I know)! Resilent channel as SAC says it the right one.

[Planet Sutcliffe]

This from Soundisolationstore: Very impartial site I must add:

GenieClip by Pliteq

This states hat channel is what I need to install these clips and to decouple the ceiling.

I know it's called Hat channel as it looks like a profile of a top hat. I just can't seem to find it for sale in the drywalling section of any of the hardware shops here. I know it's used in drywalling in general, it's not a specific sound isolation product.

Any more tips guys?

Thanks,

[DanDan]

Sound insulation, acoustics, noise control


DD

[LEF]

Originally Posted by Planet Sutcliffe

...just can't seem to find it for sale in the drywalling section of any of the hardware shops here. ....

Don't go to any hardware store, you have to call building/construction suppliers like:

Van Neerbos
Imabo
etc. etc.

I know that there are also other clips to hold regular metalstud C-profiles.

You need the professionals for this, they can help you out.
Waar ergens in NL zit je?

[SAC]

Originally Posted by Planet Sutcliffe

This from Soundisolationstore: Very impartial site I must add:

GenieClip by Pliteq

This states hat channel is what I need to install these clips and to decouple the ceiling.

I know it's called Hat channel as it looks like a profile of a top hat. I just can't seem to find it for sale in the drywalling section of any of the hardware shops here. I know it's used in drywalling in general, it's not a specific sound isolation product.

Any more tips guys?

Thanks,

The dangers of such 'comprehensive' understanding that one can only seemingly obtain from reading a marketing brochure.

The 'hat channel' does not effectively decouple anything. It provides a standoff and a mounting flange for other more resilient attachments. The 'hat channel' provides the same function that furring strips typically provide - if necessary.

If you have exposed studs, hat channel is not necessary. It, like furring strips, is typically used only when you have a solid (masonry) surface that does not readily support the direct attachment of various hardware by screws or rivets, etc. (hence the reference to flange depth) - as it is a bit 'difficult' to directly attach drywall to a brick or poured concrete wall! (As I am assuming no one is imaging the use of impact drivers/fasteners to attach drywall!) Alternatively, such channel can also potentially be suspended for attachment in such applications as ceilings.

It is important to distinguish acoustically effective resilient channels from hat channels, z-channels, and other lightweight metal furring systems. These other systems may resemble resilient channels, but they afford no movement and are simply too rigid to be effective. Only resilient channels have any acoustical benefit.

And one can only imagine where you are looking for this, as it is a commodity item in the wall industry. But these are typically used in commercial buildings, as the typical home is not generally constructed of concrete walls, but rather of stud construction - eliminating the need for furring/channels.

An example of the specs for the channel:
1 ½” FURRING “HAT” CHANNEL Specification

Examples of how it is used:
Furring Channel with Resilient Sound Clips

[jayfrigo]

Hat channel is meant to be used with RSIC clips (or similar), not alone. Link above is a good one, with examples of both resilient channel and clips applications.

[Planet Sutcliffe]

Hi,

I have been out with Flu the past week so was unable to respond:

Perhaps I should have been more specific in my original post, so will fill in some details here.

I have chosen to decouple my ceiling using the resilient sound clip system (RSC), choosing the brand genieclip.

I have a full concrete structure upon which sits my studs (mostly steel some wood)

I have exposed the stud structure and will now fill the space behind with rockwool, layer plastic sheeting over that (vapour barrier) and then attach the RS Clips in rows to the studs.

Then the channel will attach to the clips, and the drywall screw to the channel.

As discovered by myself and pointed out here: The channel is not available in normal hardware stores, only through trades stores (as it's more for commercial buildings)

Ik zit in Amsterdam, ZO. Ik ken iemand in de bouw, hopelijk kan hij wat regelen voor mij. Maar als je verder weet hoor ik graag!

I will update this when I have more to report,

Thanks guys

[frankrijk]

Ik ben met een zelfde soort project bezig en zoek nog clips en channel. Weet jij een plek waar die in nederland te krijgen zijn?