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Old 15th January 2011   #1
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Quietglue PRO vs. Green Glue - with Test Results

Interesting - went to my local supplier today for a couple of things and he was telling me about this update of quietglue. Going head to head with green glue - using the same testing lab. Looks interesting and for about $40/case less. It seems that the lab test conclusions are draft from the #1 assumption that they can't replicate the 2005 green glue performance under the same conditions.

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Testing wet Green Glue (14 days) helps explain things. It takes 30 days or longer to dry.

No one pays list price so you'll find Green Glue still less expensive.
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Interesting. I forgot about the cure time. I would think that this product would also benefit from the same curing time, but that is speculation of course.

In real, what you pay dollars, I was told this project would still be $40-50 cheaper per case. And I have a local green glue supplier who give me a great price and no shipping.

I already have 1 layer of GG between 5/8" drywall and was thinking about doubling my mass again, so was interesting to me.
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I looked at the link briefly. I did not see the actual test reports. Are they there? The devil is in the details.

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Andre - I posted a link to the docs on John Sayers. Per Ted's observations someone would need to correlate the test data and highlight the differences to make a fair assessment on performance and then gather some pricing data globally to assess value.
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Andre - I posted a link to the docs on John Sayers. Per Ted's observations someone would need to correlate the test data and highlight the differences to make a fair assessment on performance and then gather some pricing data globally to assess value.
Thanks. I will look for it. As you wrote, a detailed comparison of the tests is required.

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Had a look, short curing time. Explained.
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I would think that this product would also benefit from the same curing time
Different materials. QG always had a fast dry time.

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In real, what you pay dollars, I was told this project would still be $40-50 cheaper per case. And I have a local green glue supplier who give me a great price and no shipping.
Youre paying too much for the product. What can I say? And you'll still pay tax locally.
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Youre paying too much for the product. What can I say? And you'll still pay tax locally.
Thanks - I just submitted a request for a quote on your website. Great site by the way!

Thank you for the information.
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Just a quick update for those on this slightly stale thread...
We did longer tests with both QuietGlue Pro and Green Glue (over 30 days of drying time) and updated the technical white paper here.
Also a rebuttal to some points Green Glue made here.

Both products are excellent. Bringing QuietGlue Pro to market (after 3+ years of field experience) simply created competition for Green Glue and more consumer choice. Everyone wins.

Ted: You might consider carrying QuietGlue Pro to provide your customers more choices at a lower cost.

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Thank you for the data.

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Looking into GG and QGP for a small project - has anyone had any more recent experience with QGP? The test data from QGP look good, done in the same lab as GG.

I don't think anyone wants to put the performance of a build at risk simply to save money, but a (marginally) lower cost for a damping product isn't a bad thing, and competition (theoretically) is a good thing.
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You'll find that they're similarly priced.
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Well, actually, no. About 15% less. But that doesn't address my question about peoples' experiences with QGP.

EDIT: Ted, I see the link to your soundproofing business in some of your posts, but not in others. As you're a dealer for GG, it might be good to make that clear when you post on the topic.
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My signature with company affiliation is in my permanent signature. Not sure why it shows up sometimes and not others.

You'll find the street price about the same.
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You'll find the street price about the same.
Maybe on your street, not on mine.
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If you look a little, you'll find that dealers that distribute throughout North America are priced as low or lower. I have a bit of data on that... However I'd encourage you to try the QG and let us know how that works for you.
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If you look a little, you'll find that dealers that distribute throughout North America are priced as low or lower. I have a bit of data on that... However I'd encourage you to try the QG and let us know how that works for you.
Well, I'm in England, so that might be the issue.
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Clearly. The GG distributor there is notoriously high
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Some time ago the moderators changed the setting on the forum software. Signature lines show only on the first post a person does in a thread.

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Well, that solves the mystery. Thanks Andre
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QG Pro

New HT builder. Working on my Home Theater currently. Going the distance with sound proofing and other experimental solutions for a "unique" situation.

I decided to go for Quiet Glue Pro vs Green Glue for several reasons. Main one is price. Price ONLY based on the fact that there was no discernible difference in GG vs QG Pro in performance. I know folks that have used BOTH products, they concur that they can see no difference between the two, and most times they use whichever one is available and better priced.

One comment I did receive is that Quiet Glue Pro seems to "flow" better during application and when screwing the 2nd layer of drywall down they can "feel" it spreading and gets stable faster. Thus, they were able to paint, patch, joint compound, etc sooner.

Both are good products. I was able to acquire my Quiet Glue Pro for literally 1/2 the cost of GG.

This will be MY 1st experience with any soundproofing treatment like this. I will keep you informed what my final verdict is.
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First post... misleading information.

You can "feel the flow...?"

Sells for 1/2 the price?

You have all these friends that use both all the time?

Really...really...?

I would simply suggest that readers read through a lot more objective posts on this forum and many others.

Also readers should understand that damping is only one of 4 elements you're looking to deploy. You want all 4.
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Ted, if he is shilling, it will become obvious as (if?) posts accumulate. The 1/2 price claim caught my eye. I have seen Green Glue listed a little higher, but not double.
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Actually I just polled some folks in sales and they have seen an uptick in dealers liquidating / clearancing slow moving materials, so that's possible.
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Hmmmmm....

That post did smell a little bit like shilling and no one likes the smell of corporate *****, not here at GS anyway!

I have been reviewing prices of GG and QGP and have noticed that GG is more expensive, but by a small margin.

Having said that I would not know which one is better of the two as I have no direct experience, but reading about both products, I would say they are both competent products and it's up to you to decide which is better.

Writing things like "flows better in application..." may make the more naive readers but this product over GG, so it makes you look like the company spokesperson pretending to be a genuine home builder.

Shame on you.

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GG list prices are high relative to street prices. Our shopping would indicate GG street price is less than other damping compounds, but if a company is liquidating, then who knows what the pricing might be.
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Last I used GG, the stuff almost fell out of the tubes by itself !!

How much easier could it be ?

And price was about 40% lower than I had expected here in Belgium (I ordered through the Netherlands). So that statement could actually be true, depending on where you need to source the thing.
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Last I used GG, the stuff almost fell out of the tubes by itself !!
That's a very important consideration, as the other stuff is 300% thicker
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