Could you please help me with placing my absorbers - Gearslutz.com

Gearslutz.com

All Advertisers
Go Back   Gearslutz.com > The Forums > Studio building / acoustics


Could you please help me with placing my absorbers

New Reply New Reply Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 3rd July 2009   #1
Gear nut
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Location: Europe
Posts: 108

Thread Starter
Could you please help me with placing my absorbers

Dear fellows

Soon, I'll have my first little recording and mixing room. I added a picture of the situation. I have already built some nice DIY Absorber plates + 2 resonators (don't know the correct english term for that one. In German it's called Plattenresonator or Plattenschwinger)

Were would you place those Absorber?
2x: 1.80m x 1m x 6cm accoustic Rockwool
3x: 2m x 1m x 6cm „“
2x: 1m x 60 cm x 6cm „“
1x bookshelf 2m x 2m
2x wooden resonator

Hope someone has the time to help me!
THANKS
Middletom
Attached Thumbnails
Could you please help me with placing my absorbers-absorber.jpg  
middletom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd July 2009   #2
Gear Guru
 
Ethan Winer's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Location: New Milford, CT, USA
Posts: 12,334

Lightbulb

First, you should rotate your setup so you face the window at the bottom of the drawing when listening. More here:

How to set up a room

The above article also explains where to put absorbers for the side-wall and ceiling reflection points. Then you'll put bass traps in as many room corners as you can. You need more traps than you have now. Maybe 2 to 3 times more. A bookshelf is not acoustic treatment, so put it in the rear of the room, maybe along one of the side walls. I can't advise you on your resonator bass traps without seeing a photo or a better description.

--Ethan
Ethan Winer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd July 2009   #3
Gear nut
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Location: Europe
Posts: 108

Thread Starter
Thanks Ethan

It's great having such an experienced person to help me
Of course I already know your site and your videos. And I read and watched them nearly all the way through some time ago.

I've chosen the monitorposition that way round because I've heard in another thread that it is more important to have equal distance to the sidewalls than to the backwall. And because my room is L-shaped, I thought, this would be the best way to start.

So I'll turn around the Mixingposition. Sweetspot is around 1.5m away from the window now.
The bookshelf I thought could act as a sort of diffusor... maybe I was wrong in scientific terms...

the resonator is a wooden box with Rockwool in it and on the front side, there's a thin plate, that resonates - if I remember correctly - around 60-70 hz. Which was a problem area as I did the testing after your Videoguide with a sinus sweep.
Where would you place those?

Could you please comment the new picture?

Thanks!
Middletom
Attached Thumbnails
Could you please help me with placing my absorbers-absorbneu.jpg  
middletom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th July 2009   #4
Gear Guru
 
Ethan Winer's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Location: New Milford, CT, USA
Posts: 12,334

Lightbulb

Quote:
Originally Posted by middletom View Post
I've chosen the monitorposition that way round because I've heard in another thread that it is more important to have equal distance to the sidewalls
Well, it looks like you're symmetrical now, and the rear wall is now farther behind you.

Quote:
the resonator is a wooden box with Rockwool in it and on the front side, there's a thin plate, that resonates - if I remember correctly - around 60-70 hz. Which was a problem area as I did the testing after your Videoguide with a sinus sweep.
Where would you place those?
Probably on the front and/or rear walls.

The new layout looks much better.

--Ethan
Ethan Winer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th July 2009   #5
Gear nut
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Location: Europe
Posts: 108

Thread Starter
OK. I'll check it out.

Thanks Ethan!

Any other opinions?

Middletom
middletom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th July 2009   #6
Lives for gear
 
Weasel9992's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Location: Savannah, GA
Posts: 4,339

Send a message via AIM to Weasel9992
Quote:
Originally Posted by middletom View Post
OK. I'll check it out.

Thanks Ethan!

Any other opinions?

Middletom
Nothing to add other than seconding Ethan's advice. He's 100% correct as usual...if you do it his way you'll be just fine!

Frank
__________________
Frank
Weasel9992 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th July 2009   #7
Gear nut
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Location: Europe
Posts: 108

Thread Starter
I'm just wondering.. I believe, that he's absolutely right. I just heard a lot about live end, dead end... Wouldn't that be an option too? Or is it just an internet myth?

Thanks for further comments.
Middletom
middletom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th July 2009   #8
Gear Guru
 
Ethan Winer's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Location: New Milford, CT, USA
Posts: 12,334

Lightbulb

Live end / dead end is sort of old school. It works fine! But it's not really necessary to make the entire front of the room dead. What matters most is treating the specific reflection points. Some pro studio designers like to keep the entire front of the room very live, but that requires side-wall angles of at least 30 to 35 degrees. You don't have space for that, so just stick what the tried and true.

--Ethan
Ethan Winer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th July 2009   #9
Lives for gear
 
Weasel9992's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Location: Savannah, GA
Posts: 4,339

Send a message via AIM to Weasel9992
Quote:
Originally Posted by middletom View Post
I'm just wondering.. I believe, that he's absolutely right. I just heard a lot about live end, dead end... Wouldn't that be an option too? Or is it just an internet myth?

Thanks for further comments.
Middletom
Your room is pretty small for live end/dead end anyhow.

Frank
Weasel9992 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7th July 2009   #10
Gear nut
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Location: Europe
Posts: 108

Thread Starter
OK. Thank you guys. I'll set it up that way and do some measuring.

Thanks a lot for your advice!
Middletom
middletom is offline   Reply With Quote
New Reply New Reply Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook  Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter  Submit Thread to LinkedIn LinkedIn 



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Similar Threads
Thread Thread starter Forum Replies Last Post
Placing subs just below nearfields ? androne High end 2 29th May 2008 08:55 AM
I Need Help Placing Traps doog Studio building / acoustics 3 21st May 2008 07:49 AM
Placing amps in the room fooman Studio building / acoustics 1 13th May 2008 09:25 PM
Placing Sub fooman So much gear, so little time! 6 6th March 2008 03:45 PM
Placing rear-ported monitors in front of absorbers? infty Low End Theory 1 21st May 2007 04:35 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:38 PM.

Home - Search Forum - Contact Us - Terms Of Use - Advertise on Gearslutz - All Advertisers - Archive - Top
 
 
Powered by vBulletin®
Gearslutz.com LTD - UK Company Number 7597610.
Registered Office - 35 Ballards Lane, London, N3 1XW.
Hosted by Nimbus Hosting.

SEO by vBSEO ©2010, Crawlability, Inc.