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Old 3rd July 2009, 02:18 AM   #1
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Arrow Help me - Using my bedroom as a control room? 1-room studio for creating music.

Here is a video of my room:

zSHARE - My room.wmv



All I did was stand in the middle and take photos as I rotated myself 360 Degrees.

This is all the equipment\software I am\will be using to make music in my studio.


Equipment:

--Self-Built Desktop PC:
-790FX Motherboard
-Amd Athlon 64X2 6000+ 3.0GHz
-8GB RAM
-HD4870 Graphics card
-500W Power supply
-Audigy 1 Sound card (Will upgrade to Delta 1010)
-500GB HDD
-1TB HDD (Will have)
--Acer 20" Monitor
--Sonic-Cell(Will have)
--Motif-ES8 Rack(Might have)
--M-audio Keystation 88ES(Will have)
--M-audio Keystation 25
--Akai MPD24 or Maschine(Will have)
--KRK VXT4, 6 OR 8 (Will have)


Software:

--Windows 7 RC
--FL Studio 8 Producer(Getting this week)
--Cubase 5 (Will get)
--Komplete 5(Will get)
--Real Guitar 2(Will get)
--EWQL Goliath(Will get)
--Trilogy(Will get)
--Ivory(Will get)
--(Omnisphere(Will get)


As you can tell, this setup is not going to take up much room at all, since I wont have a hardware mixer right now. Basically, my main goal is to soundproof this room, and to make it sound nice inside without making it look too odd.

Ideally, I would want as little sound to escape as possible. Behind my house is a cornfield, so some sound can escape through my window. I need to cover my ceiling, door, left side, and window \ window side.


I need help on what material to buy to soundproof my room, and make it sound nice with the KRK monitors I'll be buying.


EDIT:

I cannot take apart my room, install isolation material between the drywall and use Green Glue to attach it. That will be so much work \ money. I'm trying to get it so that nobody will complain\hear me making music outside of my room.

I plan on using KRT V4, 6 or 8 Monitors. I don't know exactly how loud they will be. Only as loud as I need them to be able to mix\create really well.

So.. I was thinking of making (12) 2' x 4' x 2" Fiberglass panels to fit around my room. Save up a month or so more and then getting the corners with "Super Chunk" Bass traps.

EDIT 2:

I just read a bit more. It looks to me as if treatment is good for getting true sound, but not for "soundproofing" or "sound isolating". The question remains though.

EDIT 3: It looks like I won't get good soundproofing without taking apart my drywall. If anybody knows a solution that doesn't involve taking apart my drywall please post it.

EDIT 4: I'm going to save up for GreenGlue + Drywall.

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Old 3rd July 2009, 04:20 PM   #2
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There are literally hundreds upon hundreds of threads here that explain how to treat a room. You'll find much of value here:

Acoustics FAQ
How to set up a room
RealTraps Articles
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Old 4th July 2009, 12:32 AM   #3
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Thank you.

I did most of the research after I posted the thread .

Where is the cheapest place to get Fiberglass Panels that are 2' by 4' that you know of? Applies to all.

Cheapest Ive found so far was 12 panels for $118 w/o shipping included. Don't bother to post anything higher than that.
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Old 4th July 2009, 01:14 AM   #4
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Ethan,

Where is the 38% Line inside my awkwardly shaped room? I don't know the math to find it

NOTE: I ADDED THE LINE SEPARATORS TO HELP ME CALCULATE THE AREA OF MY ROOM. IT IS ACTUALLY ONE BIG WEIRD SHAPE.

NOTE2: 93 Represents Height.

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Old 4th July 2009, 02:44 AM   #5
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Here is my room setup plan:

The total cost will be $1500 for Greenglue+Drywall+FiberGlass Paneling (12 + (4 to cover window) )

How does this look Ethan?

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Where is the 38% Line inside my awkwardly shaped room?
The length is 152 inches because the recess is small and is partially filled in with a bookcase. So 38% is 57 inches from the front wall. But 38% is just a starting point anyway. You need to measure to know where is best.

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Old 4th July 2009, 11:32 PM   #7
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Thanks, I'll keep this updated as soon as it materializes.
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Old 9th July 2009, 03:59 AM   #8
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Ethan:

I decided to move the book-case. Here is an updated diagram of my room.



What I did to get 38% was Divide the sum of both lengths of the room by two. (151 + 182.5)/2 = 166.75. Then I got 38 percent of that : 166.75*.38 = 63.366. I am 10 inches off, and I cannot move my desk back anymore due to my bed. I'm going to find out how to ghetto-measure once I get my monitors. I don't have a good MIC nor do I have the interface needed for the regular testing. For now I'm going to just need to figure out where to place the 12 Fiberglass panels + 1 Large one that covers the window. Then I get my monitors. After them, I get the Fiberglass panels. Then I calculate the costs of Drywall+GreenGlue for Soundproofing. Then I buy the Greenglue+Drywall. After that I do some weather-taping around my door and such. Then my room will be acoustically setup + Soundproof.

1 Big problem: My door is hollow. It weighs like 10 pounds maybe? The gap between my floor and it is like 2 inches as well.



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I really appreciate the help btw. Those websites did me wonders.
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Just to reiterate... the "38% rule" is just a starting point, especially if your room is non-rectangular. It's a good place to start, but you MUST experiment and/or test to make sure that's the best spot for you.
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Unless you replace the door with a solid core, and add at least 1 layer of gypsum to the entire room, including the ceiling, you really aren't going to stop one bit of sound from exiting the room.

Your plan for a window plug will knock a bit of sound down, but very, very little. It should at least contain some sort of frame that you can attach a bit of gasketing to it.

Remember, where air goes, so goes sound.
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Old 9th July 2009, 07:59 PM   #11
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Yep, the thing would be air-tight shut. I'd have to find some kind of frame equipment that air tightens it.
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