reverbish office-room

[George Necola]

hi guys,

trying to calm down our office. it's a large room with concrete floor, walls, wooden ceiling, 5meters high.

a lot of reverb.. real one kinda like beeing in a church.

I was on the way to purchase traps and put them on the ceiling + some curtains (heavy ones) and put them on the walls.

ideas appreciated.

[doorknocker]

Turn it into an acoustic guitar showroom! I've noticed that some clever folks do that so that the guitars all seem to sound sparkling and powerful.

Jokes aside, are you recording in there?

[HookedOnHardware]

Originally Posted by George Necola

hi guys,

trying to calm down our office. it's a large room with concrete floor, walls, wooden ceiling, 5meters high.

a lot of reverb.. real one kinda like beeing in a church.

I was on the way to purchase traps and put them on the ceiling + some curtains (heavy ones) and put them on the walls.

ideas appreciated.

What you wrote above should be fine if all you need is to calm things down a bit.
Traps on the ceiling, perhaps some on the walls. I know GIK does traps with prints on them. In case the aesthetic value is high you could go for something like the soundwave products (google Soundwave panel)

http://www.soundstage.com/planethifi/pics/200311_soundwave_room.jpg

Perhaps the Auralex audiotile tickles your fancy.

http://www.auralex.com/partscience/audiotile.asp

If the aesthetic value isn't really there, just go with ceiling traps and heavy curtains thumbsup

[George Necola]

Originally Posted by doorknocker

Turn it into an acoustic guitar showroom! I've noticed that some clever folks do that so that the guitars all seem to sound sparkling and powerful.

Jokes aside, are you recording in there?

no, this time it's only for an office room to improve the noiselevel. We built project and planed prostudios (acoustics primary with a partnercompany) but we never tried just to tame down the reverb tails..

What you wrote above should be fine if all you need is to calm things down a bit.
Traps on the ceiling, perhaps some on the walls. I know GIK does traps with prints on them. In case the aesthetic value is high you could go for something like the soundwave products (google Soundwave panel)

http://www.soundstage.com/planethifi/pics/200311_soundwave_room.jpg

Perhaps the Auralex audiotile tickles your fancy.

http://www.auralex.com/partscience/audiotile.asp

If the aesthetic value isn't really there, just go with ceiling traps and heavy curtains thumbsup

thank you!

cheers

[DanDan]

George, you need absorption. Lots of it. A suspended ceiling would work really well, if you can accept the visual. Use enhanced acoustic tiles or white covered slabs of Fibreglass in the ceiling frame.
Carpet with acoustic underlay is the another option. The walls are another option.
Where you have two hard surfaces facing each other, parallel, you need to kill one of them. The ceiling and floor are usually the two biggest surfaces in a room.
If you are doing the walls, a chequerboard pattern is good. Panel- space- panel- space, with the opposite pattern on the opposite wall.
DD
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[DanDan]

George, you need absorption. Lots of it. A suspended ceiling is the best opion, if you can accept the visual. Use enhanced acoustic tiles or white covered slabs of Fibreglass in the ceiling frame.
Carpet with acoustic underlay is the another option. The walls are another option.
Where you have two hard surfaces facing each other, parallel, you need to kill one of them. The ceiling and floor are usually the two biggest surfaces in a room.
If you are doing the walls, a chequerboard pattern is good. Panel- space- panel- space, with the opposite pattern on the opposite wall.

DD
Sound Sound - Homepage

[tINY]

I'd start with the walls. Cover most of them with acousic panneling in a pleasing color (you may consult with an architect). These will be 50-100mm of rockwool with fireproof fabric coverings.

IF that's not enough, there are systems out there that incorporate acoustic clouds with hanging lighting....



-tINY

[George Necola]

Originally Posted by tINY

I'd start with the walls. Cover most of them with acousic panneling in a pleasing color (you may consult with an architect). These will be 50-100mm of rockwool with fireproof fabric coverings.

IF that's not enough, there are systems out there that incorporate acoustic clouds with hanging lighting....



-tINY

I like that hanging lighting idea, but I think that is a lot more then the budget allows.

thanx for your input tiny! appreciated.

cheers

[adpz]

I went with the Realtraps panels - suspended from the ceiling - and I could not be more pleased.

Beware, too much or the wrong kind of deadening material can suck the sound out of the room to the point where you feel like you must speak even louder - it can be very fatiguing - doesn't sound like you are anywhere near that problem though.

[Weasel9992]

2" panels usually work really well to tame voice-band bounce in a room like that. I'd also look at the walls first simply because that's the low hanging fruit in terms of accessibility. The ceiling might be an option afterward, but you may not need to do it at all. And yes, should the aesthetic of the space be a critical issue, you can always get panels with artwork on them.

Frank

[George Necola]

Originally Posted by Weasel9992

2" panels usually work really well to tame voice-band bounce in a room like that. I'd also look at the walls first simply because that's the low hanging fruit in terms of accessibility. The ceiling might be an option afterward, but you may not need to do it at all. And yes, should the aesthetic of the space be a critical issue, you can always get panels with artwork on them.

Frank

from you.. I know

[matt thomas]

Originally Posted by George Necola

hi guys,

trying to calm down our office. it's a large room with concrete floor, walls, wooden ceiling, 5meters high.

a lot of reverb.. real one kinda like beeing in a church.

I was on the way to purchase traps and put them on the ceiling + some curtains (heavy ones) and put them on the walls.

ideas appreciated.

Hi george, I could do it for you when I'm back in CH in June. Its one of the things I do here in NZ, for various studios, dance schools, retail spaces etc..

narco

[George Necola]

Originally Posted by narco

Hi george, I could do it for you when I'm back in CH in June. Its one of the things I do here in NZ, for various studios, dance schools, retail spaces etc..

narco

hei man, thanx a lot.

Like i stated in the first post, we are doing it too here.. mostly with a partnercompany. I have a lot of experience in studioconstruction, but not so much in office-stuff.

i think after this project, I am the man and I start a new company "office-treatement.com"

cheers & thanx

==> call me or write me an email when you are back in CH. we can have a pizza.

[mikahanau]

Hi tagwohl

You can add a few of soft fiberboard pinboards, on the walll which are usefull for the office and good for acoustics.
In adiition you can add a few panneltraps on the celling until the reverbation is low enough.
You should also think of some gobos between the desks for seperate them.

cheers
Mika

[Weasel9992]

Originally Posted by George Necola

from you.. I know

Well, you know...only if it's convenient.

Seriously...DIY could be a great way to go here since you may have a lot to do. If you have access to materials and time to do it you could probably save quite a bit.

Frank

[andrebrito]

Use a suspended ceiling Armstrong boards or similar.

Armstrong Commercial Ceilings: Mineral Fiber, Fiberglass, Metal, Wood, Sound & Wireless Systems, and Grid

Using traps in such room is a waste of money...

[jwl]

Agreed, Andre, if the OP is just looking to tame speech frequencies for meetings, the cheapo Armstrong tiles will likely be sufficient.

[George Necola]

Originally Posted by andrebrito

Use a suspended ceiling Armstrong boards or similar.

Armstrong Commercial Ceilings: Mineral Fiber, Fiberglass, Metal, Wood, Sound & Wireless Systems, and Grid

Using traps in such room is a waste of money...

but they are canada USA only? what is special about armstrong-acoustics?

[Tom H]

I think this is what you want, I'd go with a few mooses and the absor-bear!

Animals, strong, absorption




They also have panels for more serious offices, but I like these.

[Weasel9992]

Originally Posted by Tommylicious

I think this is what you want, I'd go with a few mooses and the absor-bear!

Animals, strong, absorption




They also have panels for more serious offices, but I like these.

Hahahaha....that's AWESOME.

Frank

[Ethan Winer]

Originally Posted by Tommylicious

Animals, strong, absorption

Love it! But why no kitties? tutt

--Ethan

[tINY]

If you feed them well, real cats work good enough...




-tINY

[DanDan]

I have found that musicians can soak up quite a lot......
DD