smoothing on REW or fuzzmeasure

[drpenguen]

i read "if you are in 10 db range in mixing position, than thats good enough for a mixing room...."
you might narrow it down to 2 db... or even full flat.... anyway my question is:

under which smoothing that 10db or whatever your measurement range is OK...

measurement on 1/3 smoothing in range of 10 db might be
40db range if you use none smoothing (REW) ,
and that range changes with your smoothing choice.

what is the general rule for smoothing choice...

thanks

[ciro]

I use 1/12 - REW. seems more like the the "audible" thing (but I can be wrong...)
+/-6 here , "this way".
Well, to be totally honest, a dip a bit worst around 1.4k , but I´ll kill it

Ciro

[Ethan Winer]

Originally Posted by drpenguen

under which smoothing that 10db

No smoothing!

Or at least 1/24th octave.

--Ethan

[drpenguen]

i thought so

thank you Ethan

[DanDan]

I have a variant opinion on this. Generally I like to use 1/6 or 1/3 octave.
The 1/3 octave is used across the board in audio for very good psycho-acoustic reasons related to actual physical elements in the ear. I like to generalise, to view the shape and slope of the curve. This makes a connection between appearance and tonality for me. Take a look at studiotips - tips on studio design, acoustics, and wiring the understanding RTA bit. Flat may not be what you want.
On the other hand, if you want to identify very specific problems and work on them, zoom in with 1/24 or even less smoothing. This is great for addressing very specific issues, like a single reflection path causing comb filtering and so on. As I often point out looking at these problems in this very graphic way does not change the solution, but it is reassuring to see the problems disappear one by one as the treatment is applied.

DD

[drpenguen]

Originally Posted by DanDan

Flat may not be what you want.
DD

what exactly mean by that....

why wouldnt i want flat mixing position....

if i am EQ ing any channel on one of my dip, will not translate well ?


ps: i am not arguing btw, just trying to learn....

[drpenguen]

pps : i checked the link... additional note to that article re RTA,

none of us hears the same either... we all have different hearing RTA in a way...
so. flat- flat, may be not too good.. agree...
but what is the reasonable flatness between high and low frequency....

[DanDan]

This is a big discussion which I am not ready for yet. I will bring it up as a Thread in the future. However many many books/experts over the last decades have come to the same conclusion as that RTA article. The purspose of that slope is to have your work sound the same in real world rooms. I can assure you that mixes done is such an environment translate very well to the outside world. Vice versa, mixes done in a 'flat' listening environment will be dull in the outside world. As I say, I will try to show the research and evidence to support this view, which has been the norm.
DD

[drpenguen]

thank you, i actually totally agree...
i know some engineers bought some expensive crossovers do correct couple of small tiny dips... after a while they sold them back on ebay.... their new mixes wouldnt translate as great as they were before...