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Old 11th November 2008   #1
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Room Treatment vs. Room Tuning

I was told that if my room wasn't properly *tuned* then all the acoustical treatment in the world would not help. Is there a difference between tuning a room and treating a room?

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I was told that if my room wasn't properly *tuned* then all the acoustical treatment in the world would not help. Is there a difference between tuning a room and treating a room?

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You tune the room by treating it. There are curtain sizes and shapes that are hard to treat though. Stay away from small, squ or cube like rooms.

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There are curtain sizes and shapes that are hard to treat though.

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Do you treat your curtains, Glenn?
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Do you treat your curtains, Glenn?

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So,to really tune your room,put an Ethan in a bath robe in every corner and cover him with a curtain
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Exactly. My very presence makes the bass in any room much better.
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Exactly. My very presence makes the bass in any room much better.
I'm beginning to thing the opposite is true for me. My presence seems to create 30 dB peaks and dips at random frequencies. Maybe because I'm a Jedi and my Force power disrupts acoustics.
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Ethan, next time your in the lab,please measure yourself and make sure to post the results.
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Thanks to Ethan's fantastic and highly successful recent marketing effort, no thread with his name in it has a chance to be anything but well deserved high praise. I don't need any real traps but I'm compelled to get them anyway. I'm waiting on the film, with bated breath. A film and some room tuning. I'm In!
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Just to add a bit to what Glenn said, and also to steer the conversation away from Ethan and his bathrobe, "tuning" a room is a discreet process from treating it, though they adjacent tasks in the planning stages. In other words, you can't leave one out in favor of the other early on or neither will happen correctly.

In my former life designing big PA systems, "tuning" the space was generally the last thing I did after the install guys turned it on. After I'd design the audio system to fit the room, the purpose and the budget, I'd then have to go in with all my measuring tools and tweak crossover points, make fine system EQ adjustments, make a final check of the gain structuring, check the wide-band RT60 to make sure it fell within the client's original requirements plus making whatever DSP changes were necessary to get everything time-aligned.

All that same stuff typically happens at the end of a studio build as well, except it's the acoustician who goes in with the integrated system designer/engineer (which is what I was), who works with the acoustician to do the system tweaking.

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So, the presence of Ethan in a room, in a bathrobe, guarantees a great Bottom End?

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So, the presence of Ethan in a room, in a bathrobe, guarantees a great Bottom End?

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Apparently there's just no avoiding the distrubing imagery.
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Treatment is the process of changing the acoustics of the room. This can be done entirely using a theoretical approach.

Tuning is the final step of acoustical treatment where you use acoustical measurements in-situ and may add or remove some panels in order to solve particular problems.
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