New build questions....easy ones too ;)

[slaves666]

I'm looking at a space and I have 2 questions....

1. Sprinklers.....they run across the whole space....should I be worried?

2. 10" concrete floors + ceiling.....how much do I have to worry about sound bleed to the other floors? I am going to float the floor, but I'd rather not drop the ceiling.

[moracspace]

When you state sprinklers do you mean,fire suppression?

[slaves666]

Yeah the kind that hang from a main line and have a star shape. I believe they pop at a certain temp.

I'm worried about my gear for obvious reasons, should I be?

[moracspace]

Originally Posted by slaves666

Yeah the kind that hang from a main line and have a star shape. I believe they pop at a certain temp.

I'm worried about my gear for obvious reasons, should I be?

Yeah,Id have some concern.Will there be other tenents in this building?
If its possible installing a dry system might be the only answer.FM22 is a old dry base chem system.They dont use this anymore.There is a new system out there for computer rooms and such.

[slaves666]

any advice on the concrete? Am I pretty safe with 10" above me for the tracking room?

[bpape]

Depends on what's going on up there. Sound can flank through concrete pretty easily at bass frequencies. Also, floating a floor without dealing with the rest of the surfaces quite honestly doesn't gain you a lot except spending a lot of money from an isolation standpoint.

Now, if you're floating the floor to get a different sound and some 'feel' to it, that's a different story.

Bryan

[reflexon]

Are you looking at this place to rent or buy? If you are renting, unless you sign a super long lease and have very little TI allowance, I don't think the landlord is going to spring for a dry system. They are super expensive and it seems like every one that comes out gets banned in like a year.

The more plausible solution would be to get high temp heads on the sprinklers. These pretty much only go off when fire is upon them. If there is enough heat to set them off, your gear is already gone.

[slaves666]

I appreciate all the responses.....changing the heads should be easy, I'll talk to the landlord.....

We will be building a full studio, 2 control rooms, iso booths, large tracking room. I just wanted to know how far I need to go to isolate with 10" concrete above and below. I wouldn't assume I'd need more than 2-3" for the floor....but I was hoping I could just use treatment and such rather than building a new ceiling and having to lose more height.

[bpape]

Treatment for inside the room will give you zero additional isolation. They're 2 different things. For isolation, you need to physically decouple the space and you need to add mass and damp it.

Bryan

[slaves666]

I understand that isolation and treatment are 2 different things.....

My 2nd question still is.......

I will be floating my floors, building walls, and my ceiling is 10" of concrete. What do I need to do to make sure the neighbors upstairs don't hear me tracking.

How much, if any is needed?

FYI- I have 14' ceilings.

[avare]

You don't say how loud you are, you don't say what the neighbours are. What do you expect?

[slaves666]

Originally Posted by avare

You don't say how loud you are, you don't say what the neighbours are. What do you expect?

How loud I am? I just kinda assumed that I'd be tracking bands....Drum kits, Bass amps, guitar amps and such. I don't require ear splitting volumes to get a good tone, but I don't want to have to play to quiet either.

The neighbors are all offices.

[roscoenyc]

Concrete buildings.

Not much transmits sound better. Your sound will go STRAIGHT Down to your downstairs neighbor without decoupling. It will go up too.


signed,

guy in concrete building

[slaves666]

Then I will have to re-arrange the sprinkler system to allow for a new ceiling.

Thanks.