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Old 27th December 2007, 06:12 AM   #1
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Generally speaking...

I have read so much on this forum about surfaces when it comes to a tracking room that it is easy to become confused...

It seems the best way around this is to just take the time to pull out the mics, place em, record em, hit playback and have a good ole western shootout so I can make the best choices based on my research...but...some of these shoot out scenarios would require I rip stuff off of walls...rather a pain in the rear if I decide I like the walls the way they were...(I have decided to keep my ceiling the way it is...)

Room Dimensions: L=17' W=10' H= 8' ...concrete behind back wall (Wall you are looking at in the pic) and left wall...the right wall is half concrete half framed wall with drywall...front wall is framed drywall...hope you get the picture...

Floor, is now exposed concrete as I have ripped all the carpet off the floor...pic does not show that...but that carpet is outa there...! Maybe wood later, maybe not...BUT...

Since I have no way to A/B this room with pure drywall versus what the pic shows without undoing all that work to get the walls covered, how many would just rip off ALL the burlap on the surface and then all the foam stapled to the drywall to have just walls? How many would rip off the material on just one wall...the back wall...how many would rip off two walls...etc...??

Thank you all very much for your input...it is important to me...
Oh...and I just today received all my acoustic panels, bass traps and cloud so those will go up in the room once I decide what the heck to do with the walls...

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Old 27th December 2007, 06:08 PM   #2
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I just today received all my acoustic panels, bass traps and cloud so those will go up in the room once I decide what the heck to do with the walls...
If you bought panels from a commercial vendor (versus DIY materials) you should go to that vendor and ask their advice.

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Old 27th December 2007, 06:22 PM   #3
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Good idea...

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If you bought panels from a commercial vendor (versus DIY materials) you should go to that vendor and ask their advice.

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Yes...I will do that...thank you.

I would also be grateful for other opinions...this sub forum of "General Acoustics" seems like a great place to do that...

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Old 27th December 2007, 06:30 PM   #4
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Mostly the base setup will be the same for all vendors of modular absorbers.

When you bought them you must have had an idea already, since that defined what you bought.

Traps in corners (vertical to start with) and depending on what you have.
Absorption on walls on mirror reflection points.

But you say you have all panels already, what to do with the rest?
These "all panels and traps", what are they, how many, and so on?
Don't put a question as a riddle.
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Old 27th December 2007, 06:55 PM   #5
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"But you say you have all panels already, what to do with the rest?
These "all panels and traps", what are they, how many, and so on?
Don't put a question as a riddle.[/quote]"



Four 2'x 4' Acoustic 4" Panel (5.5" total thickness)
One 2' x 4' Acoustic 6" Panel (7.5" total thickness)
Six 2' x 4' Acoustic 2" Panel (3.5 total thickness)

I was was wondering about the material on the walls...opinions on the walls surface...to be bare or not to be bare...that is my question

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Old 27th December 2007, 07:02 PM   #6
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Four 2'x 4' Acoustic 4" Panel (5.5" total thickness)
One 2' x 4' Acoustic 6" Panel (7.5" total thickness)
Six 2' x 4' Acoustic 2" Panel (3.5 total thickness)
Amba if this are GIK panels, they are VERY active here.
Which brand are you talking about? This sounds as panels with an already present distant keeper.

With the ones you have, use the 2" on the mirror points, the 4" in the corners at 45° and that 1 6" panel wherever it serves you best.
But that's not a lot you have here as total treatment.

Using a larger cavity behind the 2" panels will improve low frequency absorption.
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Old 27th December 2007, 07:24 PM   #7
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Amba if this are GIK panels, they are VERY active here.
Which brand are you talking about? This sounds as panels with an already present distant keeper.

With the ones you have, use the 2" on the mirror points, the 4" in the corners at 45° and that 1 6" panel wherever it serves you best.
But that's not a lot you have here as total treatment.

Using a larger cavity behind the 2" panels will improve low frequency absorption.
Yes, Eric, these are GIK panels...I just didn't know if it would be Kosher to mention company names...

Thank you for the specs on positions...again, I am interested in the walls...if they should be bare or not...live versus dead...

Thanks again!

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Old 27th December 2007, 08:23 PM   #8
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Thank you, Ethan

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Of course that's okay to mention! I'll email Glenn now and tell him to stop by with his advice.

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Ethan,
That is very kind of you...

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Old 27th December 2007, 10:12 PM   #9
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Yes, Eric, these are GIK panels...I just didn't know if it would be Kosher to mention company names...
It's Kosher. Ethan doesn't need to email them. Just checking the forum shows GIKs regular presence here. No chance he (Glenn) will miss it.
Experiences with named products and suppliers can be useful for other people too.

Amba, I also apologize, someone rightfully hinted me I didn't saw you referred to a tracking rather than a studio. My mistake.
But I leave it further to GIK, since as well you as him must have had something in mind already.
That one 6" panel sounds strange to me, but as said, I just entered the thread because I felt you deserved reply no matter where you should have bought these panels.

I just thought to recognize GIK, based on your earlier description, which is a (very) regular here.
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