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Can anyone hear tell me what key a song is if i play it?

i was wondering who here has a ear like that and if i post two songs they can tell me what key its in
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There are definitely people in the world with perfect pitch, so they should be able to do it (or get close).

Whether any of the folks here on GS have it I don't know - although, given the number of people, I'd say there are probably some.

I'm not one of them though!
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Post the songs, and I'll tell you the key.
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It is really not that difficult to figure the key of a song. It does not require perfect pitch or a great ear. Most people who have been playing a instrument for a few years should be able to determine the key of a song from just listening to a small part of the song.
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Perfect ear s recognizing a tone with reference.If you got it its handy but I know people with that gift that they are not even musicians!
In the other hand a trained musician with a reference tone should be able to hear the distance between that and the key song and determine what is that.
For me works like this.I hear the song and I play the chord that I guess that is the key.Then I can see if I am upper or lower and almost how many semitones.I define some notes that belong to the scale and I got it.
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Perfect ear s recognizing a tone with reference.
I believe that is WITHOUT a reference. From wikipedia

"Absolute pitch (AP), widely referred to as perfect pitch, is the ability of a person to identify or re-create a given musical note without the benefit of an external reference."
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I don't have perfect pitch but after years or temp gigs I could figure out keys within five seconds or less using interval techniques. Or, start with E and figure out where things fit and hope this song is not a C minor one :-).
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Right.

While those with 'perfect pitch'* can presumably call out a note value (or closest note value, since Zeno's paradox suggests it's highly unlikely to end up on the 'exact' value [and referenced to what atomic clock, anhyhow? ]), many folks with an even lightly trained ear can pick out notes on an instrument against a piece of music and, by listening for the note's harmonicity with the music or lack thereof, tell if that note is in the music's key scale. Do that enough and you can figure out the notes in the whole scale a note at a time and then figure the key from there.

That said, much modern music has modulations within it where the mode and/or scale changes in the course of the song, so one has to remain aware of that.

(When I was first trying to learn how to play lead, I had no idea that songs changed mode... I basically figured it out by trial and error. Of course, there are some soloists who simply go for the 'lowest common denominator' -- for instance, restricting themselves to a pentatonic scale when playing blues because they can't be bothered with keeping track of modal shifts.)


*Whatever that really is -- I've asked questions of a number of folks who claim it and often received conflicting answers when I ask them how they deal with nonstandard tuning where A is not 440 Hz but some other value -- I've also asked those claiming perfect pitch for their insight into Equal Temperament vs Just/mathematically correct intervals and got either confusion or conflicting answers. FWIW, I certainly don't have 'perfect pitch' in the sense that I can call out note values just listening without reference. (And, in fact, when I started, I couldn't even tell which of two close tones was the higher.) But I did 'memorize' the pitch of my old A440 tuning fork with enough accuracy that I could pretty much get the A string within a few cents. (And screwed that when I started dropping all my guitars a half step. )
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I believe that is WITHOUT a reference. From wikipedia

"Absolute pitch (AP), widely referred to as perfect pitch, is the ability of a person to identify or re-create a given musical note without the benefit of an external reference."
Yes sorry typo mistake!
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"that and if you post the song"

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this is a joke thread right?
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this is a joke thread right?
Sure. What made you wonder?
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tired, had insomnia last night after a 10 hour session. there was a thread like this a few years ago that went "how can I tune the singer if I don't know what key the song is in".
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Of course, this might be a joke thread. But I took a look at other posts by the OP and he doesn't seem like a troll as far as I scanned.


Why do a few of you guys think that this has to be a disingenuous question?

I run into people all the time here who seem to call themselves recording engineers who know less about sound and technology than the OP seems to know about music.

And I've known a few pretty knowledgeable studio engineers in the 3DW who had precious little grip on music.

Honestly, I got over being amazed by some of the (perfectly sincere) questions here on GS a long time ago.
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"how can I tune the singer if I don't know what key the song is in".
Haha, that must have been a hilarious thread
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I run into people all the time here who seem to call themselves recording engineers who know less about sound and technology than the OP seems to know about music.
Yeah. I really miss DiamondDave101. The guy from Belize.
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Yeah. I really miss DiamondDave101. The guy from Belize.
OK... you're right. I haven't got over it.

But the bar just keeps getting higher and higher.



I was just about to say that 8 or 10 years ago I would have been amazed by a big slice of the threads I've seen started here (don't forget a lot of head slappers sink like a stone if they're not funny, just dumb, so you don't get a real idea of just how many times people have asked, What preamp to sound like Artist X?) -- but then I thought about a couple of serious misconceptions about digital audio theory I had before coming here, and I decided, hmmm, maybe it's all relative.
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both of your songs are in D. I can tell because i have perfect pitch
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both of your songs are in D. I can tell because i have perfect pitch
Wow, is that a telepathic thing as well?
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Wow, is that a telepathic thing as well?
It's what happens when you hit perfect pitch super sayan level 3. You can tell people the key of the song they're about to write...

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It's what happens when you hit perfect pitch super sayan level 3. You can tell people the key of the song they're about to write...

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I feel the strangest urge to write a song in D, myself.

Are you a sender as well as receiver?


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If it's hard rock, chances are it's d minor lol

My tin foil hat helps a lot with that, blue!

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I feel the strangest urge to write a song in D, myself.

Are you a sender as well as receiver?


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Oh my.


That is hilarious. But it is most def NSFW!

I'm always happy to have a warning even though I work [er, and browse] at home, particularly at this time of year, because my windows are often open and the neighbors are very close.

(Actually, I wouldn't mind a warning on super-loud mixes, either. But I've finally got it into my head to turn down the sound before playing any unfamiliar music. Even in my subscription player -- since I mostly listen to well-recorded stuff but every now and then some tin-eared loser -- of whom there seem to be more every year -- remasters a classic album and I get pinned to the back of my chair unexpectedly.)
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But I've finally got it into my head to turn down the sound before playing any unfamiliar music. Even in my subscription player -- since I mostly listen to well-recorded stuff but every now and then some tin-eared loser -- of whom there seem to be more every year -- remasters a classic album and I get pinned to the back of my chair unexpectedly.)
And TV commercials ...but that's a different topic.



caught a pic from your other post on a different post. pretty cool, scary indian like (cher) indian..........your eye in in your avatar..did you loose it? ..just wondering..respectfully.
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