Short delay instead of reverb (on drums)

[Krank]

Is this something that can be done to good effect? I'm experimenting on a medium tempo effected breakbeat which quickly muddies up with reverb. But with delay so far I find it hard to avoid phasing. I'm looking for pretty large ambience/width.

I'd be grateful for pointers as to time, stereo, dry/wet mix, etc. And if I should even bother, or just use an ambience reverb instead.

[recall]

Originally Posted by Krank

Is this something that can be done to good effect? I'm experimenting on a medium tempo effected breakbeat which quickly muddies up with reverb. But with delay so far I find it hard to avoid phasing. I'm looking for pretty large ambience/width.

I'd be grateful for pointers as to time, stereo, dry/wet mix, etc. And if I should even bother, or just use an ambience reverb instead.

I do this often with old echo boxes one panned left and one panned right. I tend to just send the snare to it, also using old echoes (or emulations thereof) means that the sound is different from the drum you are effecting and therefore easier to balance, due to the contrast.
Might not be what you need though. If you just want to make your kit wider you could send the snare and a bit of overheads in places to a nice stereo convolution reverb.
I am assuming you have the beat in separate elements (k,snr,oh's etc) if not you could duplicate the beat filter out a lot of the bass and low mids and send that to a delay or reverb or even cut out manually the kicks from your pattern if you dont want a radically different sounding delay.
Just some ideas.

[5down1up]

Originally Posted by Krank

But with delay so far I find it hard to avoid phasing.
I'd be grateful for pointers as to time, stereo, dry/wet mix, etc. And if I should even bother, or just use an ambience reverb instead.

if you use it as a send FX wet should be at 100%. if not, thats where the phasing is coming from ! i witnessed in pt that the real short digidesign delays ~35ms are always phasey even if the mix is set to 100% ? so i am grabbing for an outboard box and theres nothing phasey using the same time amount.

for breakbeats i like quarter / 8ths and dotted delays. makes the beats superfast.
if its still to washy maybe try duplicating the drumtrack and cut off the bass and the highs and send that signal to the reverb. or simply use the reverb and some filters

hard to say without hearing it, good luck