DP 3.1 available for download to registered users!!!

alphajerk · 1st October 2002, 03:42 PM

just got done skimming through the pdf manual... and can i say HOLY SHIT!!! packed with TONS of features... some stuff that no other DAW offers [that im aware of] and many features now included like multiple track editing, track grouping, nesting within the groups, soundbite window folders, 'heal' command for split midi/audio, scissors, mute regions, blah blah blah.... too much stuff to remember.

Killahurts · 1st October 2002, 04:18 PM

Well it's about time. I'm going to go get it right now. Thanks for posting it Alphajerk, I gave up monitoring the MOTU site for it weeks ago. I can't wait for these new features. Did they get the timeline-based multiple undo's thing in? Oh well, I just go see for myself

alphajerk · 1st October 2002, 04:42 PM

yeah, the timeline based undo is more powerful than ANY company has ever put out [of all the apps i have used... photoshop, corel, macromedia, fcp, any DAW shit] you can have FULL history from the beginning of the project and branch out from undos... redo's, audio soundbite undo/redos... EVERYTHING.

its just sick.

i think this update makes DP the most powerful DAW out right now in terms of features [logic only competing with their logic plugs with tdm if you are a tdm user], but strictly native.

i noticed a lot of the bugs like the tray windows disappearing with more than one wrapper are now fixed. i never had problems with the track window freezing so i guess thats fixed...

**mwagener** · 1st October 2002, 06:48 PM

thanx for posting that, alpha, 3.1 rocks.

Fibes · 1st October 2002, 07:47 PM

I can't wait to give it a go. I hope I can have different soundbite windows on different sequences and make that retroactive. Fingers crossed.

jeronimo · 1st October 2002, 08:08 PM

I hope it's more stable now...:eek:

Killahurts · 2nd October 2002, 05:06 PM

It's WAY more stable now. Did a session last night, first time I turned it on after installing, we layed about 20 tracks - no window freezing, no MIDI/USB time syncronizing issues, no hangups, and didn't have to reboot the application all night

jeronimo · 2nd October 2002, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Randy Copus
It's WAY more stable now.

What kind of hardware are you using?:eek:

Killahurts · 2nd October 2002, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jeronimo

What kind of hardware are you using?:eek:

Dual 450 Mac, 'bout a Gig O' RAM, 2 30 Gig LVD 160 drives, 200 Gig of IDE storage, 2408, lightpipe to Sony DMX R100. But wait, I didn't try any MIDI yet, only audio. Will Try MIDI tonight. Also will try the cool undo thing. AJ is right, there is no other DAW that comes close to that. Period.

R

3rdpath · 3rd October 2002, 05:35 AM

downloaded 3.1 today...can't wait to install it tomorrow. been reading all the forums to see what the feedback was first.

it all looks good. FWIW, i've never had any stability issues with DP.. been using it since 2.3. ( except that whole OMS shizznat...love the emulator).

jeronimo · 3rd October 2002, 01:35 PM

I had several problems with DP 3.0 on my G4 dual 533 with a 001... It freezes almos everytime I was editing on it... sucked, I uninstalled it and never tried again.

Fibes · 7th October 2002, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jeronimo
I had several problems with DP 3.0 on my G4 dual 533 with a 001... It freezes almos everytime I was editing on it... sucked, I uninstalled it and never tried again.

Sounds like it was you that sucked. RTFM

jeronimo · 7th October 2002, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fibes
Sounds like it was you that sucked. RTFM

Yeah, yeah, yeah... maybe YOU suck replying like this... if you don't want to help... WTF do you reply?

alphajerk · 7th October 2002, 10:08 PM

hey jeronimo... what drives are you using? have you defragged the project [if its the ONLY project on it]? i use DMA drives and have this problem... BUT it doesnt technically freeze. it stalls for like 15 seconds, maybe 30 sometimes... acts like its frozen BUT if you leave the mouse exactly where you want it and leave it it SHOULD eventually go to that place and "unfreeze". BUT if i keep my HD's really tight, it doesnt do it.... then after more recording and fragmenting it does it again. i am assumming its a DMA drive problem, i GUESS. so i am going to be going back to my 10kscsi drives soon.

i dont know why it does this... i havent yet had a problem with 3.1 with this yet but i havent done extensive recording/editing yet. tomorrow will tell though. first session on 3.1. well actually tonight i will be doing stuff on it along with MIDI. so maybe tonight i will know more in regards to 3.1

Fibes · 7th October 2002, 10:44 PM

Yes I do suck, that's why I don't have the problems you speak of.

When you say freeze do you mean crash? Or just stall as AJ is referring to?

BTW you didn't ask for help, I would have gladly given it but instead I chose to respond "in kind" to your remarks about MOTU. Just because it wasn't working for you on your platform doesn't mean that it's broken or sucks. People are so quick to blame the company when it's usually the individual who's to blame. I don't think MOTU would still be selling DP3 if it sucked.

jeronimo · 8th October 2002, 07:47 PM

Yeah fibes, I didn't ask for help and I'm not blaming MOTU for nothing... I'm saying that DP 3 doesn't work at it supposed to do, by the way, I have PT LE and LAP on the same machine, on the same partition, and I never, ever had a hardcrash... so... yeah, maybe I'm doing something wrong huh?
MOTU have a very good application, but... it is NOT as stable as Pro Tools, this is real... if it was, I bet it would have a bigger share on the market right now.

I worked on a lab with 15 DP 3 workstations right after working on another lab with PT LE 5.1.1 and guess what...
The machines w/ DP needs a looooot more attention...
Those are my opinions...

jeronimo · 8th October 2002, 07:49 PM

And thanks AJ for your reply... I'll try to put the session on a clean partition and see what happens :)

Killahurts · 8th October 2002, 11:04 PM

One thing I have noticed about 3.1 is that sometimes while recording audio or MIDI, the wiper gets stuck, and then jumps ahead to where it should be, only to stick again, learching forward every few seconds. It doesn't seem to affect the recording, though. Even though it's a drag to see it (no pun intended), it hasn't ruined a take or crashed the software yet.

R

Fibes · 9th October 2002, 02:49 PM

I read about that same bug on Unicornation and haven't witnessed it yet. I guess I'm just lucky. Keeping a clean drive is definately something to keep in the habit of. The only problems I have are after a few months of no routine "maintenance."

alphajerk · 9th October 2002, 02:52 PM

i had the wiper issue yesterday while recording but i dont know if it was an "issue"... only happened while recording and i was tracking with tons of plugins on the mix AND monitoring THROUGH effects, so im sure i was bogging shit down. on playback its smooth as a freshly waxed kunt.

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1st October 2002, 03:42 PM	#1
alphajerk There is only one Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: asheville NC Posts: 5,291	DP 3.1 available for download to registered users!!! just got done skimming through the pdf manual... and can i say HOLY SHIT!!! packed with TONS of features... some stuff that no other DAW offers [that im aware of] and many features now included like multiple track editing, track grouping, nesting within the groups, soundbite window folders, 'heal' command for split midi/audio, scissors, mute regions, blah blah blah.... too much stuff to remember.

1st October 2002, 06:48 PM	#4
mwagener High End Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Music City USA Posts: 2,885	thanx for posting that, alpha, 3.1 rocks. __________________ Michael Wagener http://www.michaelwagener.com Production workshops at WireWorld Studio

1st October 2002, 07:47 PM	#5
Fibes Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 504	I can't wait to give it a go. I hope I can have different soundbite windows on different sequences and make that retroactive. Fingers crossed. __________________ Fibes "you can like it, or not like it."

1st October 2002, 08:08 PM	#6
jeronimo Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Salvador, BA - Brazil Posts: 2,532	I hope it's more stable now...:eek: __________________ Think Diferente! www.verticeestudio.com http://www.myspace.com/jelmet

1st October 2002, 04:18 PM	#2
Killahurts Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: USA Posts: 1,310	Well it's about time. I'm going to go get it right now. Thanks for posting it Alphajerk, I gave up monitoring the MOTU site for it weeks ago. I can't wait for these new features. Did they get the timeline-based multiple undo's thing in? Oh well, I just go see for myself

1st October 2002, 04:42 PM	#3
alphajerk There is only one Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: asheville NC Posts: 5,291	yeah, the timeline based undo is more powerful than ANY company has ever put out [of all the apps i have used... photoshop, corel, macromedia, fcp, any DAW shit] you can have FULL history from the beginning of the project and branch out from undos... redo's, audio soundbite undo/redos... EVERYTHING. its just sick. i think this update makes DP the most powerful DAW out right now in terms of features [logic only competing with their logic plugs with tdm if you are a tdm user], but strictly native. i noticed a lot of the bugs like the tray windows disappearing with more than one wrapper are now fixed. i never had problems with the track window freezing so i guess thats fixed...

2nd October 2002, 05:06 PM	#7
Killahurts Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: USA Posts: 1,310	It's WAY more stable now. Did a session last night, first time I turned it on after installing, we layed about 20 tracks - no window freezing, no MIDI/USB time syncronizing issues, no hangups, and didn't have to reboot the application all night

3rd October 2002, 05:35 AM	#10
3rdpath Gear nut Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: island of misfit toys Posts: 97	downloaded 3.1 today...can't wait to install it tomorrow. been reading all the forums to see what the feedback was first. it all looks good. FWIW, i've never had any stability issues with DP.. been using it since 2.3. ( except that whole OMS shizznat...love the emulator).

3rd October 2002, 01:35 PM	#11
jeronimo Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Salvador, BA - Brazil Posts: 2,532	I had several problems with DP 3.0 on my G4 dual 533 with a 001... It freezes almos everytime I was editing on it... sucked, I uninstalled it and never tried again. __________________ Think Diferente! www.verticeestudio.com http://www.myspace.com/jelmet

7th October 2002, 10:08 PM	#14
alphajerk There is only one Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: asheville NC Posts: 5,291	hey jeronimo... what drives are you using? have you defragged the project [if its the ONLY project on it]? i use DMA drives and have this problem... BUT it doesnt technically freeze. it stalls for like 15 seconds, maybe 30 sometimes... acts like its frozen BUT if you leave the mouse exactly where you want it and leave it it SHOULD eventually go to that place and "unfreeze". BUT if i keep my HD's really tight, it doesnt do it.... then after more recording and fragmenting it does it again. i am assumming its a DMA drive problem, i GUESS. so i am going to be going back to my 10kscsi drives soon. i dont know why it does this... i havent yet had a problem with 3.1 with this yet but i havent done extensive recording/editing yet. tomorrow will tell though. first session on 3.1. well actually tonight i will be doing stuff on it along with MIDI. so maybe tonight i will know more in regards to 3.1

7th October 2002, 10:44 PM	#15
Fibes Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 504	Yes I do suck, that's why I don't have the problems you speak of. When you say freeze do you mean crash? Or just stall as AJ is referring to? BTW you didn't ask for help, I would have gladly given it but instead I chose to respond "in kind" to your remarks about MOTU. Just because it wasn't working for you on your platform doesn't mean that it's broken or sucks. People are so quick to blame the company when it's usually the individual who's to blame. I don't think MOTU would still be selling DP3 if it sucked. __________________ Fibes "you can like it, or not like it."

8th October 2002, 07:47 PM	#16
jeronimo Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Salvador, BA - Brazil Posts: 2,532	Yeah fibes, I didn't ask for help and I'm not blaming MOTU for nothing... I'm saying that DP 3 doesn't work at it supposed to do, by the way, I have PT LE and LAP on the same machine, on the same partition, and I never, ever had a hardcrash... so... yeah, maybe I'm doing something wrong huh? MOTU have a very good application, but... it is NOT as stable as Pro Tools, this is real... if it was, I bet it would have a bigger share on the market right now. I worked on a lab with 15 DP 3 workstations right after working on another lab with PT LE 5.1.1 and guess what... The machines w/ DP needs a looooot more attention... Those are my opinions... __________________ Think Diferente! www.verticeestudio.com http://www.myspace.com/jelmet

8th October 2002, 07:49 PM	#17
jeronimo Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Salvador, BA - Brazil Posts: 2,532	And thanks AJ for your reply... I'll try to put the session on a clean partition and see what happens :) __________________ Think Diferente! www.verticeestudio.com http://www.myspace.com/jelmet

8th October 2002, 11:04 PM	#18
Killahurts Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: USA Posts: 1,310	One thing I have noticed about 3.1 is that sometimes while recording audio or MIDI, the wiper gets stuck, and then jumps ahead to where it should be, only to stick again, learching forward every few seconds. It doesn't seem to affect the recording, though. Even though it's a drag to see it (no pun intended), it hasn't ruined a take or crashed the software yet. R

9th October 2002, 02:49 PM	#19
Fibes Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 504	I read about that same bug on Unicornation and haven't witnessed it yet. I guess I'm just lucky. Keeping a clean drive is definately something to keep in the habit of. The only problems I have are after a few months of no routine "maintenance." __________________ Fibes "you can like it, or not like it."

9th October 2002, 02:52 PM	#20
alphajerk There is only one Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: asheville NC Posts: 5,291	i had the wiper issue yesterday while recording but i dont know if it was an "issue"... only happened while recording and i was tracking with tons of plugins on the mix AND monitoring THROUGH effects, so im sure i was bogging shit down. on playback its smooth as a freshly waxed kunt.

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