how to get sounds... in the live room, or in the control room

bdmctear · 14th November 2006

I am sure many of you can answer to this ...

I wonder sometimes if I should pay more attention to how something sounds when I am standing in front of it, or how it sounds when I get into the control room. Electric guitars, for instance, sound different when you are standing their versus through monitors. I use close mics paired or combined with room mics, too. Clearly we don't hear in stereo in the sense of two speakers, so which direction should the traslation occur?

Thoughts?

seaneldon · 14th November 2006

my way of working has always been "get the amp sounding better than great in the room, then try to capture that exact sound (or at least something close to it) with various microphones and tricks so it sounds that way through the monitors."

electric guitars, in particular, i can go on about for days. i'd probably be able to explain how i go about it a lot easier if i was talking to you in a studio in front of an amp, but whatever.

stevep · 14th November 2006

It depends on what instrument,....

Drums, Get them tuned before Micing and then after sound check i will go out and move mics around abit or add some tape before i try EQ, usually there will be NO eq needed if you get the mics in the good spots

For acoustic guitars i place mics depending on what sound we are going for,
same for percussion.

For electric guitar i let the player get his sound.

if i think it bites i will go out and listen and ask him to get what i think it needs...

If he cant get it i will try to turn the knobs and move the mic.
depending on the player and if i am producing i will try and have him get it ,...If he cant i will turn knobs , move mics until its what i want

But i will change something and go back in and listen before making a bunch of changes at one time,.. Sometimes it just takes i tiny bit

When the Marshall is cranked to 11 i have no desire to be in the live room, and if its that loud it probably wont mater where the mic is

For vocals i put up a mic i think will work and listen in the control room.

For horns ,..... i put the mics up and run

So yea most of the time i put the mics where i think they will give me the sound I'm after and go listen in the control room, where its safe

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14th November 2006	#1
bdmctear Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 594 Thread Starter	how to get sounds... in the live room, or in the control room I am sure many of you can answer to this ... I wonder sometimes if I should pay more attention to how something sounds when I am standing in front of it, or how it sounds when I get into the control room. Electric guitars, for instance, sound different when you are standing their versus through monitors. I use close mics paired or combined with room mics, too. Clearly we don't hear in stereo in the sense of two speakers, so which direction should the traslation occur? Thoughts?

14th November 2006	#3
stevep Lives for Jesus Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: orange county ca. Posts: 2,935	It depends on what instrument,.... Drums, Get them tuned before Micing and then after sound check i will go out and move mics around abit or add some tape before i try EQ, usually there will be NO eq needed if you get the mics in the good spots For acoustic guitars i place mics depending on what sound we are going for, same for percussion. For electric guitar i let the player get his sound. if i think it bites i will go out and listen and ask him to get what i think it needs... If he cant get it i will try to turn the knobs and move the mic. depending on the player and if i am producing i will try and have him get it ,...If he cant i will turn knobs , move mics until its what i want But i will change something and go back in and listen before making a bunch of changes at one time,.. Sometimes it just takes i tiny bit When the Marshall is cranked to 11 i have no desire to be in the live room, and if its that loud it probably wont mater where the mic is For vocals i put up a mic i think will work and listen in the control room. For horns ,..... i put the mics up and run So yea most of the time i put the mics where i think they will give me the sound I'm after and go listen in the control room, where its safe . __________________ Steve Perkins Steve Perkins Fishing.com Creation Recording Studios .com Take a Kid Fishing Outreach John 3:16

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14th November 2006	#2
seaneldon Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bahstahn, MA Posts: 2,669	my way of working has always been "get the amp sounding better than great in the room, then try to capture that exact sound (or at least something close to it) with various microphones and tricks so it sounds that way through the monitors." electric guitars, in particular, i can go on about for days. i'd probably be able to explain how i go about it a lot easier if i was talking to you in a studio in front of an amp, but whatever.