AKG C414B XLII X/Y on Acoustic

barryjohns · 11th November 2006, 03:47 PM

I've got a pair (not matched) of new AKG C414XLII's that I have mounted on a stereo bar in XY config. I set to Cardoid on both. I mic about 6 inches off the 12th fret. I'm running one into my UA Solo 610 and the other through my Fireface Mic Pre. I have an LA-160 on the way that will replace the Pre on the Fireface. On finger picking I'm getting good results, on strumming, not so good.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Barry

scrubs · 11th November 2006, 03:50 PM

Move the mics further out. 6" is too close for strumming, imo. Try about 2 feet back.

barryjohns · 11th November 2006, 04:17 PM

Does it make sense to keep the mics in XY at that distance? Or should I point one towards the 12th fret and the other towards the bridge?

Acoustic Cloud · 11th November 2006, 06:44 PM

When you say xy, they are on top of each other, right?

To get rid of chord blowapart, try positioning overhead at different angles, while still keeping the xy happening.

scrubs · 11th November 2006, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barryjohns

Does it make sense to keep the mics in XY at that distance? Or should I point one towards the 12th fret and the other towards the bridge?

Whatever sounds best. XY is very valid, as there is still plenty of stereo information at that distance and it will be more phase coherent than a spaced pair. However, ORTF or a spaced pair can sound "huge" if that's what you're going for.

barryjohns · 11th November 2006, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acoustic Cloud

When you say xy, they are on top of each other, right?

To get rid of chord blowapart, try positioning overhead at different angles, while still keeping the xy happening.

They are side by side. I have the 414's mounted directly beside each other in thier shock mount so they are even. I know in a typical XY one mic would be above the other

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barryjohns · 11th November 2006, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acoustic Cloud

When you say xy, they are on top of each other, right?

To get rid of chord blowapart, try positioning overhead at different angles, while still keeping the xy happening.

They are side by side. I have the 414's mounted directly beside each other in thier shock mount so they are even. I know in a typical XY one mic would be above the other

Acoustic Cloud · 11th November 2006, 10:35 PM

Barry

Arent you having gnashy phase problems that way

If you try the more overhead/angled thing, you may like it. It will be a bit more like your ears hear it.

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11th November 2006, 03:47 PM	#1
barryjohns Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,315	AKG C414B XLII X/Y on Acoustic I've got a pair (not matched) of new AKG C414XLII's that I have mounted on a stereo bar in XY config. I set to Cardoid on both. I mic about 6 inches off the 12th fret. I'm running one into my UA Solo 610 and the other through my Fireface Mic Pre. I have an LA-160 on the way that will replace the Pre on the Fireface. On finger picking I'm getting good results, on strumming, not so good. Any suggestions? Thanks, Barry __________________ My hope is we will be able to debate our passion, vice argue a subjective point. Oh, if you ever want to talk about Jesus, PM me

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Acoustic Cloud Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: around the corner Posts: 1,968	When you say xy, they are on top of each other, right? To get rid of chord blowapart, try positioning overhead at different angles, while still keeping the xy happening. __________________ If the Earth wasnt created, where'd all the dirt come from?

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Acoustic Cloud Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: around the corner Posts: 1,968	Barry Arent you having gnashy phase problems that way If you try the more overhead/angled thing, you may like it. It will be a bit more like your ears hear it. __________________ If the Earth wasnt created, where'd all the dirt come from?

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11th November 2006, 03:50 PM	#2
scrubs Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: NC Posts: 343	Move the mics further out. 6" is too close for strumming, imo. Try about 2 feet back.

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barryjohns Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,315	Does it make sense to keep the mics in XY at that distance? Or should I point one towards the 12th fret and the other towards the bridge?