Relacement for Vintage Warmer

[mic monkey]

Hi Everyone,

I have just gone to an Intel mac which is running logic 7.2.3

Obviously VW isn't coded for UB yet... has anyone any idea what i should buy to replace it?? VW was an essential part of my armoury... i miss it and need to replace it asap!!

has anyone tried the nomad stuff like the LM-662?

Any advice would be amazing!!!

[mic monkey]

anyone??????

[George Necola]

I dont like the nomad stuff.

Vintagwarmer is kind of a parallelcompression InThePlugin-unit. you can do the same with a tapesaturation plug in parallel to the original and then limit the signal.

cheers

[mic monkey]

Hi George,

why don't you like the nomad stuff?
I have read on another forum that you can simulate VW with a tape sat and a comp/limiter.. which tape sat do you use?

if the nomad blue tubes stuff is crap, what nice comps are there that are intel ready?

thanks mate

[Kiwiburger]

For the price you pay for some plugs, you may as well buy a cheap used PC and use it for all the plugins you currently own but can't use. You could network it with your new machine - various ways to do that.

VW is unique - I think you would stuggle to replicate it with anything else. I'm very choosey about digital distortion, and I think PSP have some of the best sounding saturation algorithmns.

VW can do parallel compression with the Mix knob, but it's not exclusively for parallel compression. Careful use of a clean compressor into a saturation plugin might get you close, if you are very carefull about gainstaging.

OR - take the next big leap in audio quality, and get some yummy hardware. Ultimately, digital saturation is second best to tubes and trannies being pushed.

[George Necola]

steinberg magneto does a good job. you need a good limiter. I like the Kjaerhus audio limiter for this.


actually I was in the same gap as you, but my problem was, that the VW in version 1.7 slowed down my system.

cheers

[taturana]

i think the nomad stuff is pretty cool, i actually think the blue tube sounds better than the newer bt series... dirty plugins for sure, but pretty good to warm stuff up...

[macmod]

Originally Posted by George Necola

steinberg magneto does a good job. you need a good limiter. snip
cheers

Why George?

Cheers,
Macmod

[Bump Music]

I have VW... use it all the time for a lot of different things. The only replacement that comes to mind would be the PSP Mix Saturator plug.... which I can only assume is not UB ready as well.

Can you wait? How long are they supposed to take?

[Kiwiburger]

I didn't like magneto - too fizzy for me. Voxengo has some good saturation plugins, even the freebie TubeAmp good for adding some harmonic warmth. The AnalogFlux TapeBus is pretty cool too - combining saturation with convolution of real tape machines.

I don't know if any of these will work on a Mac though.

I still reckon you need to link up a spare PC, because there are too many good PC VST plugins to throw away.

Or get some decent analog hardware, and dig yourself out of this hell hole of endless software versions and incompatibilites and kidding yourself that digital sounds ok. It sort of does, but analog sounds more than ok.

[George Necola]

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Originally Posted by George Necola View Post
steinberg magneto does a good job. you need a good limiter. snip
cheers
Why George?

Cheers,
Macmod

because VW limits:D


actually I never try to replace a plugin, I try to find something diffrent, so in principal this doesnt make sense to me

cheers

[Levi]

I've been using Tritone Digital's ColorTone plugin for tape saturation and coloration. Granted, it's not a limiter or anything, but it's pretty darn wonderful for signal paths and such. Might be what you're after...

[macmod]

Originally Posted by George Necola

because VW limits:D


cheers

Hmm, on my screen it says ''magneto'', not ''VW'' ;-)
Cheers,
Macmod

[George Necola]

you are welcome..

erm.. I am talking about the PSP vintagewarmer=?

magneto is from Steinberg.

diffrent products.

cheeers

[mic monkey]

thanks for your help guys..

the only problem is that most of those plugins that were mentioned aren't available for intel mac (universal binary) I dont believe magneto is, Kjaerhus audio limiter isn't either.... and i have another mac to run VW on.. but i will need to buy another dongle for that (i think)...

the analog signature pack may be my only option on this one... unless there any any other ideas..

thanks

[Westex]

Originally Posted by Kiwiburger

I still reckon you need to link up a spare PC, because there are too many good PC VST plugins to throw away.

Exactly! A spare PC makes a great accessory for any mac, IMO. Just add a cheap soundcard with digital i/o and you've got yourself a poor man's Receptor.

[mic monkey]

errrrr... i don't really want a pc in my control room... sorry

[Kappi]

I think most people overlook that the Oxford stuff has some of the best tube and saturation algorythms.(Warmth in Dynamics, Inflator)
and the Au is already announced....
This is gonna be great, just imagine having the Oxfordplugs in Waveburner....this will gonna make my life better...

[max cooper]

Originally Posted by Westex

Exactly! A spare PC makes a great accessory for any mac, IMO. Just add a cheap soundcard with digital i/o and you've got yourself a poor man's Receptor.

I'd like to understand exactly how to do this.

Would you use a host app in the PC?

[Kiwiburger]

You can link multiple PC's over a LAN using FX Teleport from http://www.fx-max.com/fxt/index.html

Since this is about linking Mac's and PC's, the only option like this that I know of is Steinberg System Link, which would require Steinberg products on both machines.

But the simplest cheapest option I would use is simply using s/pdif or AES audio. You would simply be using the PC as a hardware effects box, so you would need to compensate for latency. An Audiophile 2496 would give you s/pdif i/o for peanuts, and the total hardware cost needn't be greater than the cost of some Mac plugins. There is a wealth of good PC VST freebies that simply aren't available to Mac users. If you already own good PC plugins, like Vintage Warmer, then why go without?

The whole Mac vs PC thing is as stupid as Gibson vs Fender, Roland vs Yamaha, Protools vs Cubase. They are all good, and if you want the baddest kick-ass studio, then have them all.

[theblotted]

i'm in the same boat as OP.. Intel & Logic 7.2.3 (and PT 7.1).

so far, there is:

-Nomad Blue Tube / Analog Signature Pack
-Sony Dyamics & Inflator

anything else to get that tape or tube warmth on intels (Mac only plz)?

[mic monkey]

mr kiwi, its not just a snobbery thing... (maybe just a little). The fact that i would have to buy and maintain a pc when i don't know the first thing about them! i just want to make music!!!

[theblotted]

a quick bump here.

anything that's budget-minded?

[mic monkey]

i just bought nomad blue tubes bundle. will let you know how it sounds when i've tried it

[George Necola]

4 daMind wrote:
Mmh... I cannot put this plugins on my wishlist. I compared the Fairchild of the UAD with the Fairchild-clone of the Nomad Factory v3 bundle... No chance! The EQs are a little bit better then in V2 but they are not playing in the same ballpark as URS,UAD, Elisound or others.

V3 looks nice how all of the Nomad Factory plugins - but thats all.

.-.. I am neutral

[KrisNY]

First I was going to suggest Massey's Tapehead, but that won't run in Logic.

Then I was thinking Sony Oxford Dynamics, but that's won't run in Logic either, and it's not coded for Intel Macs yet.

I dunno though... I have VW and I haven't come across another plugin that incorporates both the hard compression and analog saturation that VW has.

I guess this wasn't any help after all...

[A440]

Originally Posted by Levi

I've been using Tritone Digital's ColorTone plugin for tape saturation and coloration. Granted, it's not a limiter or anything, but it's pretty darn wonderful for signal paths and such. Might be what you're after...

this in combination with the Sonalksis compressor (which is now UB), is a nice combination...I use it all the time...

[theblotted]

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