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| Lives for gear | Gated Reverb?
Whats a cheap reverb processor that has a good gated reverb? Something grainy that cuts thru a dense mix. Its not something I really want to spend a lot for (since I wont use it often) just wondering if there anything cheap and cool out there. |
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"Grainy" is not usually a desirable thing in a reverb, especially for drums (which i'm guessing you want this gated reverb for?). For drums, you usually want a "dense" reverb (the opposite of "grainy"). This is because the percussive transient of a drum sound exposes grainy reverbs. The famous Phil Collins gated reverb was real acoustic reverb in a stone walled room, smashed with the legendry SSL talkback compressor (which was designed to protect your ears while listening to talkback, in case somebody smacked a drum). So the ultra compression brought out the room sound, and the gate chopped it off. This caused a lot of digital reverb designers to create "gated reverb" algorithmns that chopped off the reverb tail unnaturally, to sort of sound similar to this Phil Collins sound. It wasn't 100% desirable then, and a lot less desirable now. You may as well find a decent gate, and then you can use the best reverb that you have. There are plenty of software options, but in the realm of hardware, the Kurzweil Rumour does a fairly nice range of reverbs, including gated reverb. |
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The grainy part is for it to actually cut thru and be slightly audible. I'd be using another thicker more pleasing verb for overall fullness. I remember hearing a yamaha rev 7 I thought sounded pretty cool for this effect. I just want a verb that doesnt push the drums too far back, instead obviously sounds like reverb. |
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The Alesis midiverb 4 is great for this and about $100 used. This box has tons of great fx for cheap. I've had one for maybe 10 years and every now and then I pull it out of the closet and patch it in. Not Hi-Fi, but awesome for the price and sometimes just exactly what you need. Easy to tweak too. You could do it with plugins too.
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Yamaha SPX 90 or 900. Yeah, and plug ins, too. |
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If you are looking for a gated reverb at a good price, you should look at FreeverbToo (for PC). It's free and I often use it on snare: http://www.sinusweb.de/freetoo.html |
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Why not put a noise gate on a reverb you've already got? None of the "gate" patches I've heard can compare.
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Ye olde Yamaha spx90 has a factory prog called "reverb and gate" or similar. And that's exactly what it is: a simple reverb followed by a gate (as Mr Olhsson suggested). The spx90 being from the late 80ies, it might just have that "old digital" grain you want.
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| Gear maniac Joined: Mar 2005
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I'm selling one here if you are still interested. Thanks! http://www.gearslutz.com/board/gears...ng-reverb.html |
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I probebly hooked up an SPX90 or S{X90II on EVERY mix I did for TEN YEARS! Live, studio.... EVERY mix! I may not have always used it, but it was there on an AUX! I so wish that I could peel it off a WHOLE bunch of mixes I did back then! I guess it sounded great then because I got lots of compliments on my drum sound. People used me a lot. I slathered it on lot's of mixes and they paid and kept coming back for more! The Reverb/Gate program IS grainy! Hell EVERYTHING on an SPX90 or 90II is grainy! That particular reverb sounded like someone throwing an entire toolbox in an empty garage when solo'ed. It didn't EVEN resemble the sound feeding it! I had a way I'd tweak the parameters on that program and get my "signature" grainy, gated, '80's, snare sound... thing. Which I HATE the sound of now! I had an SPX90 and later an SPX90II that had that program in it's tweaked form called "Woman Hater." I didn't name it, but it always pissed my wife off when she'd see that patch on that thing. Yeah.. she is a vocalist and knows her way around a control room. I was going to re-name it when I used on her stuff... never did it! |
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If you were quicker on your feet, you could have explained the programmer was dyslexic and he really meant to call it the "Human Waiter."
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Or that the capital E was broken ...
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