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Old 3rd November 2006, 06:29 PM   #1
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Recording Elec Guitar Advice

Here's the deal:

I'm recording elec guitars soon with a great player, but:

1) I want to be able to revisit songs at a later date for minor changes. i.e recall amp settings mic placements etc.

2) The player is very busy so "I" would be the one playing/recording the "minor changes" at a later date.

3) I can't record amps at my place, but I CAN record amps at his place.

4) I don't want to use the Pod or and amp simulator plugin.

How do I get around this?

One thought I had was to record everything D/I, with a temporary amp plugin and then after all the minor changes were made, rent out a studio and re amp the D/I guitars through amps of my choice.

But that would mean another A/D D/A conversion, a lot more cost, and a bit of a pain in the ass.

Any other ideas? Or is this a having my cake and eatin it too situation?
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Old 3rd November 2006, 06:41 PM   #2
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so you are adding an additional d/a a/d conversion... it isn't going to hurt that much, when you consider the flexability that re-amping affords. If the original performance is baddass then I seriously doubt that anyone with "normal" ears will be able to tell that there is an additional conversion stage..

when you record the guitarist, it is important that they have the tone that they are comfortable with, even though you are only recording the direct signal.. reamping isnt that hard... I find the hard part is deciding what to do with it later, considering the options that are made available... and remember to take note of everything, pictures are helpfull..
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Here's what you do:

1. DI all of your guitar tracks dry. Throw an amp simulator plug on if you want to.

2. Send all of you guitar tracks to Michael Wagener and have him re-amp them for you

Win friggin' win baby.
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Anyone else think the extra conversion isn't a big deal? I usually can't hear it... but I'd hate to regret this later.
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All of the biggies go through several layers of conversion. Most stuff is tracked digitally, and when the mix guy gets it, will pass it all back through his analog gear. Its only a big deal if your conversion sucks, really. Happens every day.
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Anyone else think the extra conversion isn't a big deal? I usually can't hear it... but I'd hate to regret this later.
"F" it. Do it. No regrets, baby.

and do send the tracks to M. Wagener.
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Ask the player if he's comfortable with playing with a software plug. It'd piss me off to show up and try to mouse some tone out of a (possibly unfamiliar) plug in....and F with latency settings...etc. And I'm not even that good! (ba dum pum )

You CAN record amps at your place. A decent amp on "2" with a decent mic will kill any plug in's tone...any day of the week. If you doubt me, do it anyway...and mult a decent DI (Radial/U5) off the guitar to a seperate track. That way, you've got you reamp/plug possibility, and a real amp-set the way the player intended.

Why don't you just record them at his place?
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Why don't you just record them at his place?
Thanks for the reply.

I can't do it at his place cuz I KNOW I'll need to touch up a few things here and there.... and I can't keep goin back to his place and spend hours recalling every song etc.
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Oh... and the guitarist is cool with the plug in idea. I've recorded plugin stuff with him before for other little jobs.
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All of the biggies go through several layers of conversion. Most stuff is tracked digitally, and when the mix guy gets it, will pass it all back through his analog gear. Its only a big deal if your conversion sucks, really. Happens every day.
I hear ya... but I'll be mixing through outboard gear as well... So I'll have Tracking A/D, Reamping D/A A/D, mixing D/A and then bouncing the mix A/D, and if I don't master it myself, another D/A, A/D.

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