Recorderman OH Technique Question

[Fletcher]

You can do whatever the hell you want... add close mics, far mics, do the "Glynn Johns" technique [which is where Eric got it from... as did I... as did ____ and ____ and only the goot lawd knows where Glynn got it... but I digress].

If you're going to try doing it in a "home environment" you'll be fairly doomed if you're dealing with low ceilings [unless you want it to sound as "boxy" as "Ramble On"]... and while I have no idea what you're going for as an end result, if you have a great drummer [which implies with a well tuned kit as great drummer generally know how to make their drums sound great] you'll have a pretty difficult time screwing it up [unless you try to capture a sound that isn't there in the first place or have a shitty drummer].

Best of luck with the recording!!

Peace.

[lerone]

Originally Posted by kats

The L/R image is very good.

Very very good!!

[Eric Greedy]

Originally Posted by Nu-tra

I'm totally gonna try it when I get home... I'm still not sure where the over the shoulder mic points to. Does that point to the snare too?

If you have a mic on the snare, the point it at the toms.

btw... i was recorderman. this was just something I made up back in the recording.org days for people in home studio's that had only a few channels and mics and not yet the experience to use there ears enough, I thought If I showed them a way to do it with measurement they would be able to follow it and get something useful and then learn from that and move on... there are many guides but few rules... so yes you can add mics. Whatever works.

[lerone]

Originally Posted by Eric Greedy

If you have a mic on the snare, the point it at the toms.

btw... i was recorderman. this was just something I made up back in the recording.org days for people in home studio's that had only a few channels and mics and not yet the experience to use there ears enough, I thought If I showed them a way to do it with measurement they would be able to follow it and get something useful and then learn from that and move on... there are many guides but few rules... so yes you can add mics. Whatever works.

Thats really quite impressive I must say. thumbsup

[Michael Winston]

Thanks for all the replies! I've been researching the recorderman setup and I believe I'm going to give that a try since my room is less then ideal. I'll be moving a couple of baffles in to help but it still won't be great.

Thanks again for all the tips. I'll let you guys know how it comes out.

[~ufo~]

I don't think I've used anything else than the overhead portion of the recorderman technique for the last six or seven years.
I use it in combination with spot mics, a stereo FOK and Room mics. Have yet to look back...

[Outlaw Hans]

Originally Posted by Nu-tra

The hat sounds like it's in the middle but it's obvious that the hat is loud. the spread on the cymbals could be wider for my tastes but hey this is still great. Is there another method that will give me a better spread on the cymbals? The toms are wide dang!

The two most widely used techniques nowadays is this one and the Glyn John´s tecnique. That one will give you a wider stereo spread which can be the ticket for certain drummers or bigger kits. The mic behind the drummer´s shoulder goes looking over the floor tom towards the snare.
Both techniques have great balance. One´s a little tighter and punchy the other one´s a bit more hi-fi and wide.
I switch between the two and with good drummers I get great results. With not so good drummers it´s a trainwreck. If I use close mics I still do recorderman on overheads just to get the main drum sound from the overheads. I still close mike snare because I like loud and warm snares and close miking gives you that.

there´s no set rule for the placement. The trick is mostly to try and get as little cymbals in the mics with distant miking. Focus on snare and toms.