D-12 dull and boxy

gevermil · 20th October 2006, 05:01 AM

I got a d12 from a friend and plugged her in .
Are they suppose to be that Boxy sounding ??
Is there any thing to be done to clean it up or is this the nature of the mic ?
G

Sqye · 20th October 2006, 05:02 AM

good luck with that mic

MY answer to your question is YES,

that is ONE of the problems with that mic.

additionally, you might find a lack of definition, etc.

IMOSVHO, you'd be better off with a kickass condenser -
like a vintage u47, etc.

or with the traditional dynamics - 421, re20, etc.

421's usually my favorite.

max cooper · 20th October 2006, 05:33 AM

You wanna sell it?

Steffmo · 20th October 2006, 05:56 AM

D12...great mic. I guess you might say it sounds like that if you thought it was going to sound like something else. I love mine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gevermil

I got a d12 from a friend and plugged her in .
Are they suppose to be that Boxy sounding ??
Is there any thing to be done to clean it up or is this the nature of the mic ?
G

**Tim Farrant** · 20th October 2006, 06:03 AM

D12 is a good kick drum mic for live sound work, but I've never much liked it in the studio. But, if you are ever recording percussion and you need dull sounds (by that I mean not "condensor" bright), it can be very useful for that.

Tim

alnico · 20th October 2006, 06:58 AM

D12E? If you pull out the carving knife/EQ you might find it has it's own unique thing on kickdrum

vernier · 20th October 2006, 07:00 AM

D12 ..the perfect kick mic.

picksail · 20th October 2006, 07:48 AM

We are talking about the D12 and not the D112, right?

adamcal · 20th October 2006, 08:02 AM

the D12E is brighter than the older D12. the D112 is something diferent altogther.

also, who knows what life your mic has had till now, perhaps its just shot or needs a clean.

T-fonk · 20th October 2006, 08:34 AM

D-12 inside, and a LD on the outside about half a meter infront of the kick. Blend to taste...

Berolzheimer · 20th October 2006, 10:24 AM

Yep, boxy on first listening but put it on or in a kick drum & scoop out some lo mids & you'll reveal a super punchy tight low end.

Ol' Betsey · 20th October 2006, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berolzheimer

Yep, boxy on first listening but put it on or in a kick drum & scoop out some lo mids & you'll reveal a super punchy tight low end.

My sentiments exactly.

And none of that overly 'modern' sheen (which I agree, some my like).

R.

max cooper · 20th October 2006, 10:49 AM

Yeah, anyway, D12's are no good. So how much you want for it?

gevermil · 20th October 2006, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berolzheimer

Yep, boxy on first listening but put it on or in a kick drum & scoop out some lo mids & you'll reveal a super punchy tight low end.

Thanks
good advice

T-fonk · 20th October 2006, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by max cooper

Yeah, anyway, D12's are no good. So how much you want for it?

Tssss

Fletcher · 20th October 2006, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gevermil

Is there any thing to be done to clean it up or is this the nature of the mic ?

Nature of the beast I'm afraid... there is a lot of myth surrounding that kind of shit... it looks a lot like a D-30 which was used to make Beatles records which means that if you use something that looks like a D-30 then you'll have instant #1 hits across the western empire [unless you release "Penny Lane" and "Stawberry Fields" on the same single... then they'll both only go to #2 and intrupt your string of #1's].

The D-12 sucked in the 70's, it sucked in the 80's... and much like a boxer, they haven't improved with age.

cdog · 20th October 2006, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gevermil

I got a d12 from a friend and plugged her in .
Are they suppose to be that Boxy sounding ??
Is there any thing to be done to clean it up or is this the nature of the mic ?
G

Uh, yeah its boxy if you use it on vocals. Its OK on the kick or bass cab, as others suggested it cleans up pretty well with EQ... but to my ear there is a "grit" this mic posesses that cannot be dialed out, you might like this "grit", I don't.

Musiclab · 20th October 2006, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamcal

the D12E is brighter than the older D12. the D112 is something diferent altogther.

also, who knows what life your mic has had till now, perhaps its just shot or needs a clean.

yep something altogether crappy and ugly.

Jetblack · 20th October 2006, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gevermil

I got a d12 from a friend and plugged her in .
Are they suppose to be that Boxy sounding ??
Is there any thing to be done to clean it up or is this the nature of the mic ?
G

Its not an every kick drum sound but matched with the right kick drum, its magic. Works great coupled with a nice LDC (Fet 47, C 37P, or also an AT4047).

Fletcher · 20th October 2006, 05:28 PM

Unfortunately the "right" kik drum is usually a 22 with no front head and a pillow inside held in place with a brick.

Jetblack · 20th October 2006, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletcher

Unfortunately the "right" kik drum is usually a 22 with no front head and a pillow inside held in place with a brick.

We're on the same page.

Mark Gifford · 21st October 2006, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletcher

Unfortunately the "right" kik drum is usually a 22 with no front head and a pillow inside held in place with a brick.

We use a sandbag. We've got an ancient Slingerland which sounds like God himself is playing it, when we do this.

I like an ATM-25 about 3-4" inside, to the right and pointed at the beater.

A buddy gave me his D-12 - I tried it once, couldn't get anything close to usable out of it.

MG

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gevermil Gear addict Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: chicago Posts: 480	D-12 dull and boxy I got a d12 from a friend and plugged her in . Are they suppose to be that Boxy sounding ?? Is there any thing to be done to clean it up or is this the nature of the mic ? G

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Sqye Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: undergound railroad Posts: 6,929	good luck with that mic MY answer to your question is YES, that is *ONE* of the problems with that mic. additionally, you might find a lack of definition, etc. IMOSVHO, you'd be better off with a kickass condenser - like a vintage u47, etc. or with the traditional dynamics - 421, re20, etc. 421's usually my favorite. __________________ Sqye (sky) *wired planet new music CREDITS link directly above ipod player *wired planet *fallen planet "he who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death" .... Thomas Paine

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alnico Gear addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: USA Posts: 428	D12E? If you pull out the carving knife/EQ you might find it has it's own unique thing on kickdrum

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T-fonk Gear nut Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 88	D-12 inside, and a LD on the outside about half a meter infront of the kick. Blend to taste...

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Berolzheimer Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: El Lay Posts: 1,965	Yep, boxy on first listening but put it on or in a kick drum & scoop out some lo mids & you'll reveal a super punchy tight low end. __________________ Purveyor of fine sounds since 1961. My very incomplete IMDB list: My very incomplete IMDB list I'm all ears.

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max cooper Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: tx Posts: 8,819	Yeah, anyway, D12's are no good. So how much you want for it?

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