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| Gear nut Joined: Jun 2006
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Thread Starter | Walking Closet into Vocal Booth? (pics inside)
I realize I have to deal with room acoustics to get a better vocal sound. My walking closet is the closest thing I've got to a booth so I might as well work with that, right? With the door closed there's a little verb and it sounds alright, but nothing flattering. I'd like to eliminate reflections and just do reverb in production, so I'm just looking for a pleasing dry signal. Pics don't show it but the floor is carpet. I'm willing to take everything out of the room if I have too. Suggestions? [ ![]() ![]() |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2006 Location: St. Louis, MO USA (Hot Louis)
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Auralex? I don't know if I would want "a little verb" in a booth like that.
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| Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2002 Location: Hollywood
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What is a 'walking' closet?
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| Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto
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| Gear Guru Joined: Aug 2005 Location: underground railroad
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dudes, i'd pay good money to see a walking closet. hey, at least it's not a talking closet.
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| Gear maniac |
I had some great success using a walk in closet as a vocal booth. I used two layers of 3/4 inch carpet padding on the walls and ceiling because at the time i was too broke for any sort of "studio foam". it worked great and it cost me about 50 dollars!
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| Gear nut Joined: Jun 2006
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Thread Starter | Thanks for the serious reply! Did you have anything else in there like clothes or was it empty?
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| Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2005 Location: Texas
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maybe you should use it as just an iso booth. I have a closet at my studio that i converted into a iso booth... It's about 10x6... I wouldn't dream of recording a final vocal take in there. It's too dry and thing sounding. To make a room that small usable for tracking, there has to be alot of absorbtion going on. And at that point everything will sound so dead and lifeless. But it is definately good to put a singer back there to play and sing while a drummer records in the live room. Don't get me wrong, the room comes in handy and gets regular use, but not for a real vocal take. Sometimes I will put a guitar amp back there for a dry effect, but thats it. As an aside, at my old studio, we had a beautiful booth. Maple floors, asymmetrical walls-ceiling-floor... It was about 10x10x12... I still hated it, everything sounded super thin. Now I just record everything in the live room |
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| Lives for gear Joined: May 2005
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If you wanna record good vocals in there, make sure you have good air-supply/exhaust. A singer fades fast without oxygen. stike |
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Here Here! I Used to have a Voc Booth made from a walk-in, dimentions = 8x8x8... but we could only last about 15-20 min in there. In the end it ended up being a - uh - walk in closet. Soundawg | |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2003 Location: China
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I moved away from small places when I started to train on gym... It's nicer to have a room with a open sound and some reverb. You will be more inspired to sing.
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2006 Location: El Pueblo de Nuestra Senora La Reina de Los Angeles de Porciuncula
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Danm , i was expceting to see a walking closet and how it could fit in a booth |
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| Gear nut Joined: Jun 2006
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| Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2003 Location: San Antonio Texas
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Pack it full of clothes. I have had to use a small closet, smaller than what you have there, and had pretty good results. The difference is mine was absolutely crammed with clothes on the rods. I put up packing blankets on the bare walls. It worked out pretty well.
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| Gear nut Joined: Jun 2006
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Alright, I'm gonna go the carpet route! Does anyone know what type of carpet gives the most balance absorption of bass and treble frequencies?
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| Gear maniac |
I would use carpet padding instead of carpet. it's much cheaper and softer. I would assume that it absorbs the high frequencies better than carpet. my 2 pennies. chuck |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2005 Location: Burbank, CA
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For a cheap solution, foam from markertek, and the reflection filter from SE Electronics. To do it properly I would get some 2X4 sheets of 4 inch rigid fiberglass cover it with nice burlap, and attach to walls and ceiling, with no space between. You don't want any natural reflection coming from that space. You could use the 1 inch rigid fiberglass if vocals is all you plan do to. www.bluethumbproductions.com |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2005 Location: Michigan
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| Gear maniac |
I use our fuctional master closet for an ISO. It is chock full of clothes on all the rods (even modded to add a 3rd tier at top ala vaulted ceiling.) The clothes are a natural deflection material. I can have a singer or tube combo in there and you can't hear it in the living room. My son can sleep at night and I can practice, record whatever without issues. My girlfriend can hear the TV without turning up the surround. I'll post pics tomorrow. When its not an ISO room it is a closet. Dual feature. Practical.
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2006 Location: around the corner
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MAN!!! That closet is a goldmine!! Treat the heck out of it, with permanent or temporary stuff. People pay a 2-5 thousand dollars for a whisper room, (which aint worth it) to try to block outside noises from reaching a mic with acoustic instruments and singers. You have a built in one!!! And no, no small rooms acoustics are worth using, IMO. Keep it dead, you dont want to hear any "small room"...unless you are going for the lo-fi bedroom sound. Thats a cool closet..... you wanna sell it?!?! If its a walking closet, have it mosey on over here! |
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| Gear maniac |
I predict a thread entitled "All of my vocals sound like they were recorded in a closet, any suggestions?".
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2005 Location: germany
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| Gear Guru Joined: Oct 2004 Location: The Land of Sunshine
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| Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2006
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You guys are cruel |
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| Gear maniac |
This is my ISO closet.
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| Gear maniac |
Yea, that's one of them clothing store extendo sticks. We installed a third tier that required quite a reach and luckily we have a commercial fixture store in town.
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2003 Location: Austria
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| Gear maniac |
I cut a piece of plywood, glued carpet on it and use it on a furniture dolly to move amps in and out of the ISO booth.
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| Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2002
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That's a combination of cool vs. too much information. |
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