Ghost in my studio!!!

[dreamsongs]

Originally Posted by huck

sorry, didn't realize that the cup had moved itself...right....
right...

well, your brain is capable of that and much much more...if you take into consideration that, for instance, when hipnotized people can stand straight as nails balanced between two chairs...it's virtually impossible to do something like that when "normal", yet hypnotized people do it..

hey...go watch that travolta movie...even that (brain cells with cancer being consumed so fast (read electrified and turned into supernovas, kind of, blowing themselves up to produce a vast amount of energy) - which is something that happens to us all but at a much slower speed - it's called thinking, reacting, etc, is more plausible (a guy being able to generate magnetic fields and direct them out of personal skill - read, move metalic things without touching them, cause he wants to) than your cup moving alone and 3 stoned guys telling you it did and giving you that reason for it.

seriously, no shit, it's more plausible than your story. waay more..

seriously. no no no,

seriously.

I honestly don't buy this explanation...sorry !

It's too vague. I don't have any concrete proof of what happened, but I'm also not going to settle for an explanation that makes no sense.

These guys were not on any trip. They were not on anything that night, I can promise you that. We talked about it before the session because I don't approve of that shit in my house.

I saw them a week later to finish the session and many times after that. I've seen them tell the story to many people and it was always the same story. I truly think it was genuine.

Just because it sounds unreal it doesn't mean it is...

[not_so_new]

Originally Posted by dreamsongs

I honestly don't buy this explanation...sorry !

It's too vague. I don't have any concrete proof of what happened, but I'm also not going to settle for an explanation that makes no sense.

These guys were not on any trip. They were not on anything that night, I can promise you that. We talked about it before the session because I don't approve of that shit in my house.

I saw them a week later to finish the session and many times after that. I've seen them tell the story to many people and it was always the same story. I truly think it was genuine.

Just because it sounds unreal it doesn't mean it is...

Just because your friends sound believable does not mean the event is real either does it?

This next part is a VERY important function of critical thinking. Lack of of an explanation does not validate a different explanation, each explanation must stand alone. Just because something lacks an immediate explanation that in no way opens the door for supernatural claims to come true.

At one time we had no idea what the sun was, there was no explanation for it. Some people believed it was a god in a flaming chariot crossing the sky. We lacked the ability to properly explain the sun rising but that also does not mean the god in a flaming chariot was the correct answer either. I don't have an explanation for the event that you and you friends witnessed but my lack of an explanation is not proof that anything supernatural took place.

Stories like this have never one time been proven and many many people have tried. Doesn't it say something when literally 100's if not 1000's of haunted houses and spooky stories have been researched and not one has ever been found to be true? Doesn't that make you question the event at all? Like asking yourself "if all these other stories had other causes why is mine special?"

You say that I am close minded and maybe I am but you are so sure this was a ghost, is it possible that you are closing your mind to other possibilities as well? That was exactly the point of my link how many ever pages ago, if you get a chance you might find it interesting if nothing else. You seem like a smart cat, a little research of the opposite side of the story is what smart people do.

[blaugruen7]

come on guys lets get realistic for one short moment:
its all one big consciousness.
everything is "connected"
everything exists.

and the answer is 42

[blaugruen7]

wow tony!
"cool" experience!
if i had the money, i would order altiverb from you right now!

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by blaugruen7

wow tony!
"cool" experience!
if i had the money, i would order altiverb from you right now!

[not_so_new]

Originally Posted by blaugruen7

and the answer is 42

I LOVE IT!! Great book, too funny.

[dreamsongs]

Originally Posted by not_so_new

Just because your friends sound believable does not mean the event is real either does it?

You say that I am close minded and maybe I am but you are so sure this was a ghost, is it possible that you are closing your mind to other possibilities as well? That was exactly the point of my link how many ever pages ago, if you get a chance you might find it interesting if nothing else. You seem like a smart cat, a little research of the opposite side of the story is what smart people do.

Michael, I never once said you are close minded. We are both educated people right ? I always respect other people's opinions and I've been around quite a bit so I would never think that just because we have opposing views.

There could be a hundred answers to something or only one. In the scenario of my story I don't think there's only one answer. I chose to go with one of the other hundred options even in the absence of a better explanation or proof.

I could give you hundreds of mundane analogies of instances where, even though there's no explanation to something, it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

This is all I'm saying...my point being that I still believe something happened that night even though my critical brain and rationalizations coudn't come up with something that made sense...

In my case, for a lack of a better explanation, I chose to believe their story...
But only after I asked them to repeat it 50 times in less than 10 seconds. Then I was satisfied...

[huck]

Originally Posted by dreamsongs

I honestly don't buy this explanation...sorry !

It's too vague. I don't have any concrete proof of what happened, but I'm also not going to settle for an explanation that makes no sense.

Just because it sounds unreal it doesn't mean it is...

i didn't offer an explanation dreamsongs. i just said, something as unlikely as "this" (my examples), are more likely to be true than your explanations, cause they we're actually studied and prooven (regardless of interest or not in letting the results come to public or further pursue investigations by those that have the means to do so).

as simple as that. i'm not saying what happened there with you/your experience. i'm just saying, you're contradicting yourself (cause you're telling people they can't see the grey area), and should consider other explanations other than stuff/tales (a crazed up angel with a sex problem living in the basement) that was planted in you by centuries and centuries of religious fanatism to which you think you're imune.

[gsilbers]

Originally Posted by CKK

Hey all

About a year ago my wife and I moved to this 100+ year old house. I have been building my studio here and I am now up and running

A couple of days ago I did a first test with all mics in the drum/vox room open and recorded 24 tracks of dead air - or so I thought.

I spent an half an hour eating lunch and returned to the "session". And as the waveforms was building, I noticed a small sequence with something recorded? The signal was present on 3 of the recorded channels - 11, 12, 13 - with channel 12 as the strongest.

Playing back the sequence revieled a small humming voice - you know like the little sounds you do when you do the dishes or something like that. At the time I was alone in the studio so I know that no one has been in the drumroom while I had my lunch.

Have any of you guys ever experienced anything like this in a session?

one time i was tracking with Truth8 mic pre using 4 channels but kept hearing this wierd sounds on one channel. i cranked it and figured out that an AM or FM signal was going into only ONE CHANNEL! just wierd.
why only one channel when there are 8 identical ones. even when swiching mics
didnt use that channel, finished tracking, came later to explain the tech guy and no sound was coming out , no radio signal anymore.

maybe u got one of those radio signals from shortwave radio or FM AM

[raal]

ok i'll share a non scary one:

i was once looking for the TV remotes in my room before going to sleep. couldn't find them. turned the whole room upside down looking for 'em. sheets, bed, mattress, everything. went to sleep really pissed because i couldn't turn the TV off with the remotes. next morning when i woke up, the two remotes were very neatly and symmetrically placed in plain sight, right next to me. i asked the maid (who was the only other one in the house at the time) if she'd put the controls next to me. she looked at me as though i was cracked and said no. she wouldn't go in the room without knocking.

fwiw i see no logical reason why ghosts shouldn't exist. imo a ghost is simply a soul without a body. because we can't see stuff it does not mean it's not there.

i've never experienced ghost stuff in the studio, but i have experienced a scary 'presence' every so often. no big deal. where i and others have experienced ghost stuff is in my house (right across the yard from the studio). whether these experinces are real, imagined, or easily explained by 'science', it makes no difference to me. i believe ghosts (souls without bodies) exist, and i have no problem with them. ignoring them is the best antidote. there are some souls with physical bodies that are harder to ignore though... ;)

as to the satan guy, it could be he was just a nasty spirit that called himself satan. humans can say they're satan too. doesn't mean it's true. i think if God (Infinite Consciousness) actually exists, satan is of no consequence, as there is no room for 'him' outside of infinity. not to say 'evil' and 'good' don't exist in our dual nature, but again imo, God, if He exists, being infinite, encompasses and surpasses everything, including good and evil.

but mexico city has a lot scarier shite than ghosts going on, i'll tell you that.

[Vocalvoodoo]

Originally Posted by Jonboy79

I listened to it several times. I wanted it to sound like a mosquito but what it really sounds like is someone goofing off in front of a mic. You know when people who don't normally sing try to do that opera thing with vibrato, that's what it sounds like to me. I had never heard anything convincing until I watched an episode of "Ghost Hunters". There were two guys from the team talking about some kind of "fijian mermaid" hanging on the wall and in the background for about 3 seconds you can very clearly hear early western style music being played. It seems that these guys really know how to run an inverstigation, but I'll always be skeptical until I actually see a ghost.

Ha ha, I just saw that episode last night. I didn't think anything of that recording until they said there was no music playing when the recording happened. That's a fun show to watch.

I was going to do some investigations with a 'ghost hunting' group in St. Louis and clean their supposed EVP's, but got cold feet. Well, my fiance was really apposed to the idea of me trying to catch evidence of the supernatural. That stuff scares the crap out of her. So I guess I got 'fiance induced' cold feet. :)

[bgrotto]

Originally Posted by raal

but mexico city has a lot scarier shite than ghosts going on, i'll tell you that much.

Like all those UFO sightings?!?

[Pepe Ortega]

Originally Posted by raal

mexico city has a lot scarier shite than ghosts going on, i'll tell you that.

of course raal.
many years ago on my old studio , I was recording some tunes from "phantom of the Opera" the singer told me that she couldn´t sing. that "something" disturbed her. I just was thinking: This woman is damn crazy and out of tune!! Then, while mixing, tape recorder (analog) stops itself. rewind and stop again, then FF!!! sequencer started to run @200bpm !!!.(i was looking very surprised to my equipment) She asked me what happens and I told her:(joking) it´s the phantom that came to visit us!! She started to worry and told me some fckng histories about some things she can "see"(spirts and energies) at my studio. I started to think this lady was realy nuts!!
suddenly, After 2 minutes I started to feel lots of cold and and the mixer suddenly condensed! (do you remember six sense movie?) I started to feel some energy trying to hold me. Jesus!!! so then i started to feel really worried!
after some minutes this energy was decreasing and I feel much better...uff!!
Some other people told me that the felt "something" wile they were recording in my old studio...

[blaugruen7]

do you guys know "the others?"
great film and sound design (the beginning!)
i like this thread. i like coming back and always getting goose pimples...
:-)

[raal]

maybe OT but i think this fits:

there's a wonderful keyboard player/producer called greg mathieson. he's a bud and we've worked together.

anyway some years back someone told us he had died... that was a bummer. so my partner and i are at AES a coupla years ago, and in walk greg mathieson and casey porter! my partner slowly turns to me and says: 'i see dead people'. we told greg and casey the story and we all had a good laugh.

[Mr. Green]

Originally Posted by Vocalvoodoo

Ha ha, I just saw that episode last night. I didn't think anything of that recording until they said there was no music playing when the recording happened. That's a fun show to watch.

I was going to do some investigations with a 'ghost hunting' group in St. Louis and clean their supposed EVP's, but got cold feet. Well, my fiance was really apposed to the idea of me trying to catch evidence of the supernatural. That stuff scares the crap out of her. So I guess I got 'fiance induced' cold feet. :)

Ghost Hunters is really amazing. The missus got me hooked on it a year ago.

You guys should check it.

[ArcCirDude]

I had a friend with braces when I was 12. One day "La Bamba" started emitting from his steely smile. I like to think that the ghost of Richie Valens was squatting in a cavity in one of his molars.

Or maybe he had his mouth wired with Monster cables....

[Sounds Great]

Originally Posted by ArcCirDude

I had a friend with braces when I was 12. One day "La Bamba" started emitting from his steely smile. I like to think that the ghost of Richie Valens was squatting in a cavity in one of his molars.

Just like Gilligan?

You know, a lot of ghostly things happened on that island. And the professor always debunked it.

[ArcCirDude]

Yeah! I remember that one! That's the one where they almost got rescued, right?

FM killed the radio mouth..... FM killed the radio mouth.....

[treymonfauntre]

i've been hypnotized before and thought it was gonna be the stupidest thing imaginable but i definitely did things i would never want to do in front of my friends

[ArcCirDude]

Originally Posted by treymonfauntre

i've been hypnotized before and thought it was gonna be the stupidest thing imaginable but i definitely did things i would never want to do in front of my friends

Mmmmmm..... Never underestimate the power of suggestion. LOOK!!!! A GHOST!!!!!

[ArcCirDude]

You know.... Every now and again I get this strange hum followed by a rhythmic pulsing at about 260hz through my speakers. The REALLY weird thing is that about 10 seconds later I get a message on my mobil telephone... I think my mobil phone in conjuction with my active monitors is acting as some sort of ektoplasmatic transducer. Maybe the spirits are trying to warn me of the dangers of electromagnetic radiation. Any thoughts?

[MUZIKSLUT]

you must have a NEXTEL!

[dreamsongs]

Originally Posted by raal

ok i'll share a non scary one:

as to the satan guy, it could be he was just a nasty spirit that called himself satan. humans can say they're satan too. doesn't mean it's true. i think if God (Infinite Consciousness) actually exists, satan is of no consequence, as there is no room for 'him' outside of infinity. not to say 'evil' and 'good' don't exist in our dual nature, but again imo, God, if He exists, being infinite, encompasses and surpasses everything, including good and evil.

but mexico city has a lot scarier shite than ghosts going on, i'll tell you that.

OK, I can live with this theory...

Maybe it was a lost spirit trying to f**k with this guy. I don't really think it was Satan himself but somebody showed up that night definitely.

I can tell you that I've never seen 3 grown men so scared sh*tless. It's funny now when I think back but at 4:00AM in a dark old house it wasn't so funny...

Since then, I've heard many stories about incidents like that. I'm sure not all are true but I know some probably were.

I have a bit of a problem with folks who refuse to believe in these unknown events just because there's no visible proof...but I guess that's what makes this world so interesting.

[tomylee]

Originally Posted by bcgood

I'm a fairly educated person and I can tell you that there is lot that we still don't know.

yes, there really is a lot that we still don't know, but once we know it, we see it was not a ghost...hahaha...Look at history, it´s always been like that.

btw musicians & artists are higly suggestible people

education itself is also suggestion, if you don't question it.

Try to take control over a nightmare while having it...it kind of frees your mind, and the next day you are much less suggestible...:)

tom