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Old 15th October 2006, 07:03 PM   #31
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Before you boosted it, it sounded like a mosquito to me. Now that you boosted it, I'd be praying that your house isn't built on an Indian graveyard

Just kidding. It could be a hard drive, I had a Hitachi that made a sound like a crying baby in the next room every 30 minutes or so. Some kind of sweep the drive heads were doing. It was so convincing that my wife made comments like, "I feel sorry for that women next door... that kid is always crying." I just smiled. Then I updated the firmware a few weeks later and the baby was gone. Apparently they had gotten a lot of complaints... Hitachi, not my neighbors.

If you want to pinpoint a location, try extrapolating based on the strength of the signal in the different mics. If it moves, it's not a hard drive.
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Old 15th October 2006, 07:06 PM   #32
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Yes - I have done a search on the net too and found the EVP shit (sorry) and I cant help but laugh a little when hearing the "ghost" recordings thats out there. You really have to have a good imagination to figure out what most of them say. On some of the recordings you can even hear the reversed effect so beloved by horror movie producers. Im shure that most, if not all of that is fake.

I have never been a dedicated ghost fan myself, but the last year has made me think. I do want to find the cause of this capture - even if its nothing but a bug flying into my mic (I hope thats the deal). But I cant help feeling that this is a human voice.

Please share if you have had similar experience - it really helps me not feeling like a freak
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Definitly sounds like a (native american?) woman in her 40-60:s, to me anyway.

If I didn't know that you had eq:ed the file, I would probably said that she was vacuming also.




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The water system (pipes etc), in my house, sometimes also talks and sings to me.

But the most scary thing was this very loud bang that occured a couple of years ago, couldn't
find any explanation to it. But the house is made from wood so it might have been 'cold to hot
in the structure' or vice versa that produced it. But when it happened I thought a car had crashed
into the side of the house.
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Old 15th October 2006, 07:20 PM   #34
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What the fark is a native american doing in my studio here in Denmark???

She should go haunt closer to her home - I dont mind her cleaning before she goes
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What the fark is a native american doing in my studio here in Denmark???

She should go haunt closer to her home - I dont mind her cleaning before she goes


Might be viking woman?
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Old 15th October 2006, 08:15 PM   #36
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I'm a fairly skeptical guy.

Nevertheless, I had my share of unexplainable events in studios over the years.

- one morning, coming early to the studio I unlocked the doors and came into one of the CRs; as I was reaching for the circuit breaker panel's door, I heard what sounded like a greeting voice coming from the monitors, but with a very diffuse sound.

I thought "very funny, someone is trying to scare me from inside the live chamber", only to realize seconds later that all the gear was still unpowered.

Quite some time later I overheard the studio owner saying to a client with cheerful pride that "as with many things in this country, we took something bad and turned it into good; we make now beautiful music where there was fear and despair before".

I asked him what was he talking about, and he replied that Studio A (in whose CR I witnessed the "event") was once a large bomb shelter.

Time went by, I moved to other studios in other countries, but every once in a while similar experiences happened.

I'm still skeptical, but...
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Funny you mentioned turned off speakers delivering sound. I have noticed that sometimes, even though the speakers got no power, the membrane on my adam S3A moves, but theres no sound. Must be a change in pressure in my CR I guess.

Going back to the EVP thingy - I think its odd that some people walk around with small handheld recorders capturing so much "ghostly" material. And all of us pro recording guys/girls that are doing hours of recordings every day, do not stumble across a strange signal (well I have now). This lead me believe that this EVP thing is nothing but a scam.

So intill I get a loud HELLO IM CASPER captured - I must believe it was an insect flying into my mic.
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Old 15th October 2006, 08:55 PM   #38
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I listened to it several times. I wanted it to sound like a mosquito but what it really sounds like is someone goofing off in front of a mic. You know when people who don't normally sing try to do that opera thing with vibrato, that's what it sounds like to me. I had never heard anything convincing until I watched an episode of "Ghost Hunters". There were two guys from the team talking about some kind of "fijian mermaid" hanging on the wall and in the background for about 3 seconds you can very clearly hear early western style music being played. It seems that these guys really know how to run an inverstigation, but I'll always be skeptical until I actually see a ghost.
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Old 15th October 2006, 09:22 PM   #39
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Could be a ghost, but most likely not.

So you were recording through 12 mics and only 10,11,12 picked it up? No other mic had recorded this?

I haven't had anything spooky happen in the studio yet... But one of my harddrives constantly gets into the cue mix.

There is also an am radio station that my console picks up. I've never heard it, but my console tech showed me that it was there on an oscillascope. There may be some freak occasion where it makes itself audible... So it coulsd be something like that
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Removed the "click" - did some low/high cut.

Boosted the whole signal.

Could be an insect - but I dont think so.
sounds a bit like the lunchtime-prayer from your local Moshee. I would contact the local Islamcommunity:D maybe they interfere with your studio;)



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Old 15th October 2006, 09:44 PM   #41
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I was recording from 24 mics and only 11, 12, 13 recorded the signal - channel 12 as the strongest signal.

I'll have to check my harddrive to see if I can find something similar recorded earlier - soundtjek from a client or something thou I havent ever heard of digital crosstalk, it could be a possibility. Could it be possible for a long gone vocal take to "manifest" itself on a newly recorded track? I mean, this sounds like singing - I have a lot of people come into my studio singing - I erase a lot of singing from my harddisk. Could some of it has "survived" and rubbed of on these 3 tracks?
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Old 15th October 2006, 09:56 PM   #42
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Sounds like a human voice to me.

For sure.
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Old 15th October 2006, 09:56 PM   #43
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Go to the website below - look under acoustic solutions on the left hand side of the page.

You will see that the page features a panel product that is designed specifically to assist with the attenuation of soundwave energy associated with etherial comings and goings. It's a common problem.

Glad I could help - who ya gonna call?

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Old 15th October 2006, 10:49 PM   #44
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It *does* sound like a human voice, not like an insect or something.
Maybe some water running? Can you remember what you did at what time, and if something of that correlates with the time of appearance of that sound? I have a "singing" tap in my bathroom, and heard strange sounds caused by water running in an old Swiss house too (which could not be heard in the bathroom itself!)
Never heard of digital crosstalk either, and couldn't imagine how it should work.

I remember being on holiday in a 400+ yrs old English cottage. I mean, it's normal that doors sometimes open by themselves (ie. by wind and an old lock). But it's not normal that they close by themselves, the handle being moved long before it's actually closed, like one does when leaving a room very quietly. That's what happened there in that old English cottage. The owner, when I told him: "Oh yeah, that's our g-h-o-s-t, have you met him?" - maybe just for that German tourist (me)...
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Old 15th October 2006, 11:07 PM   #45
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Was it summer period when you recorded that? if so it might be a bug. Other wise I would tend to hear a voice, especially with that vibrato ending.

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Old 15th October 2006, 11:39 PM   #46
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We are currently having same temperatures here like in Denmark and I had a mosquito flying around me just this very minute.
Funny that I hadn´t noticed any for weeks, but right now when I returned to this thread.

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PS: Just listened to the prepared clip, and it indeed sounds quite like human.

PS2: About those ghost hunter examples and others: There was an extended article in a serious paper about ghost visions and pretty much all popular examples like glass shoving, voices, telepathy etc.pp. The conclusion was that all phenomenons that had been seriously investigated in the end showed technically explainable and there has been not a single case yet where metaphsyics showed apparent.

Much stronger than the scientific reasoning is the human expectation of metaphysics. We just wish goose pimps since ancient times.
It´s all in our heads.
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Old 16th October 2006, 12:12 AM   #47
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Ive had a wee doob and man this thread has been cool. When i played the second clip I near shat myself. theres no way thats a hard drive or a mosquioto or any other mechanical or insect noise. It sounds like some monk doing part of a chant or or part of a shamen thingy. I had to stop reading after page 1 will read the rest later.
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Old 16th October 2006, 12:14 AM   #48
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What mics?

What was there freq responce?
over 35k?

what pre?

this was digital or no?

it really could be a ghost

To me it def sounds like a person, and I think they know its a studio (or just recognise mic's, but lets say they know its a studio) it would mean they are not that far gone
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Old 16th October 2006, 12:55 AM   #49
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That's cool. Better the singing voice, than" GET OUT..!.. voice....
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Old 16th October 2006, 12:57 AM   #50
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in the early days of DAW's when scattered audio files were commonplace a friend (a woman) told me she was working late one night and when she pressed go on the DAW a deep "devil voice" - boomed - "YOOOOOOOOOOOO MUUUUUUUUUUUUST LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAVE"!

She jumped out of her boots!

Anyhow - it turned out to be her own voice, pitched down an octave - as a stray corrupted file somehow.. She played it to me a few days later..and I could instantly hear why at 3am in an empty, large studio building, she freaked out! It WAS scary!
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Old 16th October 2006, 01:10 AM   #51
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I've seen quite a few strange things in the studio and believe them to be demonic in origin, not ghostly. One time, for example, I found a CD-ROM shattered inside it's case, with absolutely no damage to the case at all. This may not sound that weird at first, but when you consider the other facts, it will shiver yer timbers. I am exteremely meticulous with my CD-ROMs, and they go out of the case to the drive in my mac, and then straight back to the case. I store them all in a temperature controlled closet, with many other CD-ROM collections (sample libraries), and no one else has access. The CD-ROM that was broken was part of a three-disc collection in one of those large, four-disc cases. The other two discs were not affected. I had only used the discs once and they installed perfectly, and went immediately to the closet, where they sat for about a year. But the most bewildering thing is, that the shattered disc is from the only collection I own with the word "Christian" in its title. When I contacted the manufacturer to get a replacement disc, the woman I spoke with was shocked and said without me having mentioned my thoughts, that I needed to have a prayer vigil. As you know, CDs take considerable pressure to break. This disc was broken while inside it's case into about three or four pieces.
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Yes, those track numbers added together reduce to the number nine. That means either you're being visited by the spirit of a singing goddess, or Yoko Ono once lived there.
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Old 16th October 2006, 01:32 AM   #53
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The clip sounds like a mosquito at first but as the note sustains and ends, especially the ending sounds rather odd.

Since we're swapping ghost stories I'll share one of my experiences, this is a true story, every single detail.

I rented a room from a friend of mine that owned a rather old house. Apparently the previous owner had died in the house. When I moved in I had my younger brother help me and immediately he didn't like the house when we went inside. He said it just felt strange inside the house, I thought whatever. As we where moving in though the hall light turned off by itself. I felt a little uneasy but just told my self it was some sort of electricity issue.

Months later while I was sitting at the computer my friend, (The home owner) yelled because he said he saw a reflection of an old lady in the sliding glass door leading to the backyard. He wasn't joking because I could tell from his expression that he was pretty spooked.

One night I came home pretty late and walked in the door. I yelled the name of my friends pet cat, "Casper!" he was an all black cat, so I guess that kind of fits, I'm not making any of this up. At any rate my friend was out of town and there was no one else in the house. As I walked down the hall after yelling Casper's name I heard a loud SHHHHHHHH! that came from further down the dark hallway. When I heard the sound my right ear moved and I shuttered. I stammered into my room quietly closing the door and turned on the light in my room. Somehow I got to sleep that night but it did take awhile even though it was around 2:30 am. It was a strange night too because there had been a lot of lightning in the sky which isn't very common in this area. At any rate my friend moved down to San Diego and I no longer live there. I wonder if the new owners ever have any issues, who knows...

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Old 16th October 2006, 01:40 AM   #54
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I believe in science, I believe in evidence. I don't believe in mumbo jumbo and stone-age archaic mysticism.

We see it all the time on this web site. People believe that the device being tested is their device so they think it sounds better. You believe something to be true because you wish it to be but just because you wish something to be true does not make it so.

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Ouch... not critical thinking.

Conclusions should NEVER be based on your "premises." Your conclusion should be based on well researched evidence.

You don't start a scientific investigation saying "I think I just heard a ghost let me prove that it was." You start with the fact that an anomaly occurred in an event and then you find the causation for that event.

Of all the special events that have been investigated by true scientific methods it has NEVER ONE TIME been proven that any of these events are supernatural in nature. That is not a premise that is the truth.

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So you are extremely open minded, that is great, I am as well.... that does not mean you should be open to lunacy does it?

I just opened my back door and ran smack dab into a unicorn.... should you believe me? Aren't you open minded? There is just as much evidence in unicorns as there is in ghosts..which is none at all.

Before anyone makes any assumtion that this recording is really a ghost they should have to do TRUE research to prove it. Test your theory, rule out other possible causes. Don't believe in unicorns or ghosts without researched proof, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Sorry man, I don't mean to jump on you or anything you seem like a great guy it's just that the lack of critical thinking in America right now makes me a little pissed. Thining like yours just makes me a little frustrated is all.
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Sounded kinda like a fly to me... the pitch changes are simply from the dopler shift as it makes those crazy turns flies make.

I guess I was expecting Captain Howdy.


On the "supernatural" front... I don't believe in the "supernatural." If it's part of this universe, it's part of nature, on some level. But I have seen enough hard-to-explain stuff that I try to have a scientifically open mind.

The old saw about the difficulty of proving negatives does, indeed, cut both ways.
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I've got the freakiest of all freakiest stories which scares the shit out of me even as I write this. This is a bit long but if you like scary stuff, read on. This happened over 15 years ago and it's a true story...

I was in my house in LI, NY which I was renting at the time. Very old house with crackling wood floors and a bit spooky looking. I was beginning to get my first few gigs making demos for local bands. I meet and make plans to track a 4 piece rock band late one night around 10 O'clock since they said that's when they performed their best. I didn't make too much of that but I also wasn't looking forward to an all-nighter.

Everything was going fine and at around 2:00 in the morning, I sat down with the ld vocalist to go over some tracks. It was just him and me while the other guys disappeared into my TV room. I thought, OK that's cool they need a break, they've worked hard.

We drank some coffee and got to talking about music with the singer and before I knew it, almost 2 hours had passed.

All of a sudden the door busts open and the other 3 guys storm into the room white as ghosts and with a look I'll never forget. It seems that one of them had the great idea to cut up some little pieces of paper with the alphabet in a circle around a table and play some type of "ouija board" in my house.

They told me that one of them wanted to contact their grandfather that had just passed away. They started to talk to "what they thought" was their grandfather which was confirmed because this "spirit" knew family names, events that just happened in his life, etc. He knew his wife was pregnant before he did (he found out a week later) and knew all kinds of things that only a relative would.

Apparently, after about an hour of talking with his Grandfather, the "spirit" started getting really obscene and vulgar with his language. Using words and saying things this guy said his grandafther would never say. Just, nasty and vulgar stuff which surprised and freaked everybody in the room. They were sure it was the grandfather but coudn't understand the sudden behavior. He talked about weird sexual stuff and other scary off the wall things.

So at this point, the guy asked this spirit (supposedly his grandad) if he was really his grandfather to which the spirit replied NO ! At this point, everybody got a cold sweat and began to panic. Then hesitantly, the guy asked if he wasn't, then who was he ? At this point, the cup they were using as a pointer slowly moved to each letter on it's own and spelled S--A--T--A--N...

Right after that, the cup started to spin really fast and one by one knocked all the letters they had made from the table.

When they finished telling me this, I immediately stopped the session, turned all the gear off and got the hell out of the house. I don't frighten easily but I was so freaked out I wasn't sure what to do. I went from being really pissed off at this guys for doing this at my house to going to a diner to have a coffee and talk about it. We did that for 30 min. but it wasn't over for this guy...

I drove to my parents' place to spend the night since there was no way I was going back to the house that night.

Later on that morning one of the band members called me and told me that, later on that same night, he had heard footsteps right behind him as he approached his apt building at night. He would turn around and there was nobody there. He then got into his elevator to take him to the 10th floor and mid-way up, the elevator stopped and the lights went out for almost 30 seconds, which probably felt like an eternity. He struggled to sleep all night and while he was trying to fall asleep, he saw suspended in the air the shape of a bony head, with a pointed chin and pale white skin, (devil like appearance) slowly sink down from the end of his bed into the ground.

There were no more incidents after that...

This is an absolutely true story and it still frightens me after all this time. I still remember how I felt that night. Strangely enough, it has some connection with music so I decided to contribute to this thread. I hope I didn't freak anybody out.

Two things happened after this incident, I moved immediately out of the house and I never worked anymore with people that I didn't know well. To this day, this holds true.

I'm over it now but once in a while I worry when I have to piss in the middle of the night in the dark...
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