my insprirations for DIY basstrap builders

shangoe · 12th October 2006, 10:56 PM

i am nearly finished with rebuilding my studio. thanks to gearslutz, ethan, john sayers i recognise that trapping and monitoring is the most important thing. i was building the absorbers myself and here are some photos for your inspiration...

it worked out great, cost ap. 40 euros for the small 80 euros for the bigger ones. as you can see, the front corners can not build with fixed corner traps (window-door), so i made 2 standing and movable traps. most pain in the ass: drilling the holes and strain the fabric over the frames.

shangoe · 12th October 2006, 10:59 PM

some more...

shangoe · 12th October 2006, 11:01 PM

dtucker · 12th October 2006, 11:06 PM

Hey...those things look pretty good! But, how do they work? Notice a difference?

Of course, now all you need are monitors!!!

;-)

KurtR · 12th October 2006, 11:07 PM

Very nice! Do you happen to have any pics of them being built? I like the idea of the holes in the side panels. Did you do that for acoustic reasons or just to make them lighter/cooler looking?

Whats inside those babies?

thethrillfactor · 12th October 2006, 11:10 PM

Does anyone ever photographic anything around here straight on anymore?

Its all of these upshots, bend shots and side shots.

By the way that last one has a Kubrick 2001: A Space Odyssey vibe.

shangoe · 12th October 2006, 11:18 PM

yes monitors was degraded during wireing....

the sides boards are 12 cm and i thought it will be good to make the partly absorbative. i drilled the biggest possible holes in a distance that will not corrupt the stability. it can be made easyer some how without the holes but...thats me. it doesnt hurt that they look cool...

i will make some more detail pictures tomorrow...

Ruphus · 12th October 2006, 11:25 PM

Well done!
I got the same fabric for my traps in the booth. Even same colour.
Did you get it from Karstadt?

Ruphus

shangoe · 12th October 2006, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thethrillfactor

Does anyone ever photographic anything around here straight on anymore?

Its all of these upshots, bend shots and side shots.

By the way that last one has a Kubrick 2001: A Space Odyssey vibe.

yes its hard to please thrillfactor, i know. the reason is simple: with a budget digicam like my nicon you can not made the lens wide-angle like a 28mm lens on a analog camera. so in rooms like this you can not shoot a picture where geting the arangement all together. only when you sit on the floor, to get more distance to the object...

shangoe · 12th October 2006, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruphus

I got the same fabric for my traps in the booth. Even same colour.
Did you get it from Karstadt?

Ruphus

nee, türkenmarkt am maybachufer, 3 euro der meter, mit ein bischen verhandeln: 2,50 euro:)

Ruphus · 12th October 2006, 11:45 PM

Oh Mann, die Karstädter haben mir 100 Euro aus´m Kreutz geleiert ...

Ruphus

shangoe · 12th October 2006, 11:49 PM

karstadt = evil

:)

... but i spend my money for screws and wood. drove me completly NUTS all this little things needed here and there. i blowed out 8000 brackets to fix the fabric together with my vocal booth which is not on this pictures...i have a very hard handshake like a bench vise now...

Cojo · 12th October 2006, 11:52 PM

Beutiful! I like the desigin alot!

/Cojo

Ruphus · 12th October 2006, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shangoe

karstadt = evil

:)

Must be meaning "sloughterhouse" in some galactical language.

Glenn Kuras · 2nd January 2007, 08:34 PM

Schreibt ihr etwa auf deutsch, damit ihr kleine Liebesbotschaften austauschen koennt?

Glenn

Musiclab · 2nd January 2007, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thethrillfactor

Does anyone ever photographic anything around here straight on anymore?

Its all of these upshots, bend shots and side shots.

By the way that last one has a Kubrick 2001: A Space Odyssey vibe.

baam baam baam, BABAAM [boombumboombumboombumboombum]

reid · 3rd January 2007, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KurtR

I like the idea of the holes in the side panels. Did you do that for acoustic reasons or just to make them lighter/cooler looking?

Having holes in the sides of your frames is a great way of increasing your absorbtion, especially if you're doing a lot of panels. Last year I put 33 panels up (roughly 20 sq m of absorbtion) - by cutting out 'lozenges' running down the sides of the frames, I got another 6.8 sq m of absorbtion.

Shangoe - where did you get your glass wolle? Have you got any stats for it's absorbtion? I've got a friend in Kreuzberg who's just about to do his studio, and I know he'd be interested to know what's available right now. The guys I used in Koepenickerstr now seem a bit reluctant to order any less than a couple of tons of the stuff at one time...

nice looking traps!

shangoe · 27th January 2007, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reid

Having holes in the sides of your frames is a great way of increasing your absorbtion, especially if you're doing a lot of panels. Last year I put 33 panels up (roughly 20 sq m of absorbtion) - by cutting out 'lozenges' running down the sides of the frames, I got another 6.8 sq m of absorbtion.

Shangoe - where did you get your glass wolle? Have you got any stats for it's absorbtion? I've got a friend in Kreuzberg who's just about to do his studio, and I know he'd be interested to know what's available right now. The guys I used in Koepenickerstr now seem a bit reluctant to order any less than a couple of tons of the stuff at one time...

nice looking traps!

i used cellulose slaps called "FlexCL" realy, realy good acoustic material and not toxic or problematic to your skin...you can get it at a öko-building store in kreuzberg, i think Schlesische Strasse 38, schulz - baustoffe.

ONE LUV · 4th April 2007, 12:33 PM

weiss jemand ob z.b. rockwool auch dafuer geeignet ist?

ich habe meine erste kabine damals mit einer lage trittschall Und einer lage rockwool ausgebaut und das ergebnis war schon gut.

jetzt möchte ich in den kellerraum unseres hauses ziehen und dort den raum schalltechnisch ausbauen. jedoch mit hilfe von traps anstatt den ganzen raum mit einer holzkonstruktion auszukleiden und dann daemmmatten komplett zu verlegen. ich moechte in der lage sein, die daemmung zu jeder zeit mitnehmen zu koennen (z.b. bei einem auszug)

welche dicke hast du bei dieser zellulose-daemmung gewaehlt?? 32mm?

deine traps sehen echt gelungen aus!

SveNaj · 4th April 2007, 01:36 PM

40 Euros / 80 Euros are total cost per panel including all materials ? Am I right ?

Thanks,

S

Quote:

Originally Posted by shangoe

it worked out great, cost ap. 40 euros for the small 80 euros for the bigger ones.

AMIEL · 4th April 2007, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myfipie

Schreibt ihr etwa auf deutsch, damit ihr kleine Liebesbotschaften austauschen koennt?

Glenn

Glenn what are you talking about??

Dzoing · 4th April 2007, 02:35 PM

ONE LUV: Tatsaechlich ist Rockwool dafuer geeignet.

shangoe: Kannst Du bitte auch Fotos des Inneren ziegen? Hast Du einen Membrangrundsatz benutzt oder?

Anglais, allemand, c'est cool mais on ne pourrait pas en discuter en français tant qu'on y est??

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Feedback on ADK or Sonica PC builders? Please PM or post.	drockfresh	Music computers	2	3rd October 2006 09:25 PM
For you studio builders	cbastriani	High end	10	18th July 2006 08:45 PM
Question for Preamp designers/builders	Brandino221	Geekslutz forum	16	7th November 2005 12:26 AM
bookshelf-basstrap	Hans Hitmachine	So much gear, so little time!	16	7th May 2004 09:46 AM
DIY gobos	lowswing	High end	0	6th December 2003 06:22 PM

12th October 2006, 10:56 PM	#1
shangoe Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: berlin Posts: 464	my insprirations for DIY basstrap builders i am nearly finished with rebuilding my studio. thanks to gearslutz, ethan, john sayers i recognise that trapping and monitoring is the most important thing. i was building the absorbers myself and here are some photos for your inspiration... it worked out great, cost ap. 40 euros for the small 80 euros for the bigger ones. as you can see, the front corners can not build with fixed corner traps (window-door), so i made 2 standing and movable traps. most pain in the ass: drilling the holes and strain the fabric over the frames. Attached Thumbnails

12th October 2006, 10:59 PM	#2
shangoe Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: berlin Posts: 464	some more... Attached Thumbnails

12th October 2006, 11:01 PM	#3
shangoe Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: berlin Posts: 464	... Attached Thumbnails

12th October 2006, 11:06 PM	#4
dtucker Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 275	Hey...those things look pretty good! But, how do they work? Notice a difference? Of course, now all you need are monitors!!! ;-) __________________ BC - "Sweet Jesus, that's smooth! Good work, Ted!"

12th October 2006, 11:07 PM	#5
KurtR Gear maniac Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ormond Beach, FL Posts: 272	Very nice! Do you happen to have any pics of them being built? I like the idea of the holes in the side panels. Did you do that for acoustic reasons or just to make them lighter/cooler looking? Whats inside those babies?

12th October 2006, 11:10 PM	#6
thethrillfactor Gear Guru Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 11,180	Does anyone ever photographic anything around here straight on anymore? Its all of these upshots, bend shots and side shots. By the way that last one has a Kubrick 2001: A Space Odyssey vibe.

12th October 2006, 11:18 PM	#7
shangoe Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: berlin Posts: 464	yes monitors was degraded during wireing.... the sides boards are 12 cm and i thought it will be good to make the partly absorbative. i drilled the biggest possible holes in a distance that will not corrupt the stability. it can be made easyer some how without the holes but...thats me. it doesnt hurt that they look cool... i will make some more detail pictures tomorrow...

12th October 2006, 11:25 PM	#8
Ruphus Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Berlin / Germany Posts: 5,064	Well done! I got the same fabric for my traps in the booth. Even same colour. Did you get it from Karstadt? Ruphus __________________ "Am I the only one that tires of this "everything is subjective" watered-down-pop-culture-pseudo-philosophy bullshit?" Bravin Neff Wolgang Burr, former office leader of the German Chancellor before committee of inquiry: "You would not believe what unusual happens daily." "Patience, young Skywalker - let the object of your desires come to you." JTR "All thinking men are atheists." Ernest Hemingway

12th October 2006, 11:45 PM	#11
Ruphus Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Berlin / Germany Posts: 5,064	Oh Mann, die Karstädter haben mir 100 Euro aus´m Kreutz geleiert ... Ruphus __________________ "Am I the only one that tires of this "everything is subjective" watered-down-pop-culture-pseudo-philosophy bullshit?" Bravin Neff Wolgang Burr, former office leader of the German Chancellor before committee of inquiry: "You would not believe what unusual happens daily." "Patience, young Skywalker - let the object of your desires come to you." JTR "All thinking men are atheists." Ernest Hemingway

12th October 2006, 11:49 PM	#12
shangoe Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: berlin Posts: 464	karstadt = evil :) ... but i spend my money for screws and wood. drove me completly NUTS all this little things needed here and there. i blowed out 8000 brackets to fix the fabric together with my vocal booth which is not on this pictures...i have a very hard handshake like a bench vise now...

12th October 2006, 11:52 PM	#13
Cojo Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden! Posts: 1,466	Beutiful! I like the desigin alot! /Cojo __________________ Conny Johansson [ www.asteroidkiller.com ]

2nd January 2007, 08:34 PM	#15
Glenn Kuras Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 3,796	Schreibt ihr etwa auf deutsch, damit ihr kleine Liebesbotschaften austauschen koennt? Glenn __________________ Glenn Kuras - GIK Acoustics www.GIKAcoustics.com Need help with your room? click here

4th April 2007, 12:33 PM	#19
ONE LUV Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: VENLO Posts: 164	weiss jemand ob z.b. rockwool auch dafuer geeignet ist? ich habe meine erste kabine damals mit einer lage trittschall Und einer lage rockwool ausgebaut und das ergebnis war schon gut. jetzt möchte ich in den kellerraum unseres hauses ziehen und dort den raum schalltechnisch ausbauen. jedoch mit hilfe von traps anstatt den ganzen raum mit einer holzkonstruktion auszukleiden und dann daemmmatten komplett zu verlegen. ich moechte in der lage sein, die daemmung zu jeder zeit mitnehmen zu koennen (z.b. bei einem auszug) welche dicke hast du bei dieser zellulose-daemmung gewaehlt?? 32mm? deine traps sehen echt gelungen aus!

4th April 2007, 02:35 PM	#22
Dzoing Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: France Posts: 186	ONE LUV: Tatsaechlich ist Rockwool dafuer geeignet. shangoe: Kannst Du bitte auch Fotos des Inneren ziegen? Hast Du einen Membrangrundsatz benutzt oder? Anglais, allemand, c'est cool mais on ne pourrait pas en discuter en français tant qu'on y est??

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search
Display Modes	Rate This Thread
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode	Rate This Thread: