Examples of Using Short Reverb for Depth

Umlaaat · 11th October 2006, 10:03 AM

I think i've gotten the hang of using short delays on a bus (using Logic) and sending drums / instruments for depth (i've recently been using mono delays panned out. it seems to bring signal even further out l/r), but i'm still trying to figure out how to use verbs.
I have reverb time set pretty low and the spread out to stereo, but get a metallic sound. In order to compensate for this i have an eq pre verb but too much 1K cut kills the fidelity.

Anyone have any examples of verb settings for depth?

Barilla · 11th October 2006, 11:11 AM

I tend to like a Lexicon short ambience program for that...

Blast9 · 11th October 2006, 02:45 PM

With Logic try the AVERB or whatever the more basic one is called, maybe use that into the overdrive plugin (for the low pass filter only --- set the gain to 0 or +3).

I'd do a chain like this: 4 band EQ >>> reverb >>> overdrive, or 4 band EQ >>> overdrive>>> reverb The EQ is to cut frequencies before the reverb, as the overdrive tends to bost low mids, which is actually nice because it adds character and fatness.

Alternatively why don't you use the longer setting on the normal "platinum reverb" eg 1 second, then use the enveloper to "gate" the tail of the reverb. I agree the shorter settings sound awful --- metallic and phasey. NB the enveloper causes phase problems unless the mix on the bus is 100% wet.

1 sec or more gets rid of the problem, but play around with the density setting or whatever its called --- reduce this as much as poss, and get rid of the early reflections too.

max cooper · 11th October 2006, 04:58 PM

That metallic sound you're talking about is dreadful.

Once you get a reverb into that zone, it's time to switch reverbs.

Umlaaat · 12th October 2006, 03:01 AM

i dont think its the verb per se. even on waves at that setting, it sound metallic.
I think the theory is that the short verb is supposed to add dimension as opposed to a longer which adds ambience (a diff sort of dimension)

blast - i'll try yr setting...

barilla - do you know the settings on the lexi?

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11th October 2006, 10:03 AM	#1
Umlaaat Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 778	Examples of Using Short Reverb for Depth I think i've gotten the hang of using short delays on a bus (using Logic) and sending drums / instruments for depth (i've recently been using mono delays panned out. it seems to bring signal even further out l/r), but i'm still trying to figure out how to use verbs. I have reverb time set pretty low and the spread out to stereo, but get a metallic sound. In order to compensate for this i have an eq pre verb but too much 1K cut kills the fidelity. Anyone have any examples of verb settings for depth?

11th October 2006, 02:45 PM	#3
Blast9 Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: London Posts: 2,804	With Logic try the AVERB or whatever the more basic one is called, maybe use that into the overdrive plugin (for the low pass filter only --- set the gain to 0 or +3). I'd do a chain like this: 4 band EQ >>> reverb >>> overdrive, or 4 band EQ >>> overdrive>>> reverb The EQ is to cut frequencies before the reverb, as the overdrive tends to bost low mids, which is actually nice because it adds character and fatness. Alternatively why don't you use the longer setting on the normal "platinum reverb" eg 1 second, then use the enveloper to "gate" the tail of the reverb. I agree the shorter settings sound awful --- metallic and phasey. NB the enveloper causes phase problems unless the mix on the bus is 100% wet. 1 sec or more gets rid of the problem, but play around with the density setting or whatever its called --- reduce this as much as poss, and get rid of the early reflections too. __________________ :: my band is called protoangel My guitars: Atkin OM (sitka spruce top walnut back: sweet mids):: Atkin Small Jumbo (cedar top, rosewood back: big bottom, sparkly top):: Jap Tele with fat frets (rude and fat):: . My amps: 1973 Hiwatt DR504::Framus Dragon ... Latest purchases Kel Audio HM-2d TC Electronic Nova System, Chameleon Labs 7602 Digi 002 + PTLE, Addictive Drums Last edited by Blast9; 11th October 2006 at 05:47 PM.. Reason: shorter not longer

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11th October 2006, 11:11 AM	#2
Barilla Gear maniac Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 181	I tend to like a Lexicon short ambience program for that...

11th October 2006, 04:58 PM	#4
max cooper Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: tx Posts: 8,819	That metallic sound you're talking about is dreadful. Once you get a reverb into that zone, it's time to switch reverbs.

12th October 2006, 03:01 AM	#5
Umlaaat Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 778	i dont think its the verb per se. even on waves at that setting, it sound metallic. I think the theory is that the short verb is supposed to add dimension as opposed to a longer which adds ambience (a diff sort of dimension) blast - i'll try yr setting... barilla - do you know the settings on the lexi?