drums of "american idiot" Green Day

[James Guitar]

hi:
your best bet would be to search the archives. there have been many discussions of the drum sound on that record.
-J

[chrisso]

I'm assuming a lot of triggered samples were involved.
Also, I think Tre endorses Ludwig.
It would be hard to know exactly which drums and cymbals were used though.
My best advice is to go your own way, perhaps using the Greenday drum sound as your ideal only.

[max cooper]

I've seen Green Day a bunch of times (at the Cocoanut Teaszer even!), and they rock super hard, but Tre is definitely no Dave Grohl or Travis Barker. He's one of those drummers who follows the guitar.

I also notice that he's very inconsistent with his hits. See if you can find a photo of his kit where you can see the heads. dings everywhere.

But he's part of the band, and if it works, it works. I think it's Drumagog city. So you can probably get the sound, but it's gonna be hard to get the feel unless you're using BFD to put sounds on an actual drumkit performance.

I think part of the 'magic' of Tre Cool is unabashed glee. A drummer I know calls him the 'Rikki Rocket' of pop-punk. But he's probably like Krist Noveselic; essential to the band, in musical and non-musical ways.

I think the drum sounds on Warning are a bit nicer than on AI.

Can you list your comp/eq/reverb plugins? I use BFD and XFL just about every day. I can help you get closer, probably.

[NVISN]

I would start by going to greenday's website, and find out what he uses. Check the archives for modern drummer magazine, they normally have articles regarding studio work(what they played on, what mics were used, etc...) right when that drummer has a new album coming out.

[Gregg Sartiano]

I always found it interesting that en espanol, the act of creating music on an instrument is "tocar" (to touch), while in english, it's "play" (jugar).

To buy the drumset and play like Tre -- and to mix like (who mixed that record, anyway?)...and to have a room (studio) like _____ and mics...and canciones buenos...every ingredient is critical. If you need a drummer, ask on Gearslutz -- many of us know & record top drummers. I work closely with a drummer, and we do drum tracks for jingles (advertencias?) and songs by sending files over the internet. www.synchronicity-music.net

I like tab-to-transients editing on Pro Tools best. Zoom in and paste samples phase-matched EXACTLY to the kick, snare, & toms. I don't think Drumagog or SoundReplacer get close enough on phase & timing, unless you zoom in and cut-paste-slide to repair the tracks. That's just me, and I am a creature of habit...

You never said if you have a "live" drummer, or if you're trying to create a "live" feel with computer-generated tracks.

Incidentally, timing is important as well. Some producers of this kind of music will use Beat Detective (grid editing) on just about everything, even with "good" drummers.

[coloramas]

Originally Posted by max cooper

.........Can you list your comp/eq/reverb plugins? I use BFD and XFL just about every day. I can help you get closer, probably.

COMP and EQ: Waves Diamond bundle, Sonalkis, URS, Nomad Factory and T-Racks plugins.

Reverb: Waves 1R.

[kittonian]

Steven Slate Drums has a Green Day preset kit, although it's based off of Dookie rather than American Idiot, however the sounds in the Platinum package can be tweaked to be very close to the drums on that record. Just takes a very small amount of finesse.