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24th September 2006, 09:15 PM
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24th September 2006, 09:49 PM
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| Greg and Mike -- thanks for your replies! No Mix bus for the Tg1 says both of you .. I suppose that means I'm left needing a mix bus compressor that still works towards the vibe I'm after... Greg, something tells me you're going to tell me portico, right?  Also to Greg -- you mentioned vocals as a possible application for the TG1 -- do you think I could limit with the TG1 and omit the "need" for an LA2A? Because if the TG1 could do me well on vocal duties, I think I might *consider* losing the LA2A (gasp)
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24th September 2006, 10:28 PM
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| I'm always trying to get the most bang for the buck. Sometimes that means you have to spend top dollar because nothing else is right....in the case of the Portico compressor, that ain't the case. If money is no object for you (which it is for me - an object) don't get the Portico... get a compressor that looks as cool as it sounds! The LA2A is different from the TG-1. You have to hear these different units and record a few songs with both to really know what they do.
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25th September 2006, 05:49 PM
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| Thanks for all the responses thus far. I've narrowed it down to two modified packages. I know both would serve me rather well, but like I said in an earlier post, I'm basically trying to achieve the best initial tag-team of compressors based on the advice of those wiser than me. Which is most of you. Package One • LA2A • Chandler TG1 • Distressor w/Brit •*Portico 5043 Package Two • LA2A • Chandler TG1 • Distressor w/Brit • (2) Daking FET Compressors Feel free to eat me alive for all of this maladroit procrastination.
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25th September 2006, 05:55 PM
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Being that the only difference between the two options is the Portico vs. the Dakings, personally I'd take the Dakings over the Portico, no question.
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25th September 2006, 07:40 PM
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| I'd go with the 1968 for the stereo buss. While you might be able to get similar results between the 1968 and the Portico (I'm not sure that's true) their operating styles are so different that it's really a matter of your working style. The 1968 has detented attack and release controls. That may be something you love or hate. The Portico has a varialbe threshold and ratio. It's the only compressor I have in my rack that works that way. I have others that have a varialble threshold, but no ration control. I have others like the Distressor that has a variable ratio, but has an input gain control rather than a threshold. Sometimes I like to get a lot fo compression by having a very low threshold, but with a very low ratio and the Portico is the only compressor I have that I can do that with. Based on how I work, I'd choose the 1968 for tracking and the stereo buss. I like the detents and the program dependent release. I can see pently of arguements towards the Portico. Maybe you should order both from Mercenary so that you can have them side by side, then return the one you don't want and order the rest of the stuff. This is where the best GS advice hits it's limit, because it's really about your personal taste. I'd mixs with teh Distrsoors on drums the LA2A on vocals or bass. The 1968 on the stereo buss and the TG-1 is a wild card. I've had great results with it on the guitar buss in stereo and in M/S with the center limited. For tracking, you'll have the great TG-1 drum room mic sound. You've got andother alterative in the 1968. Bass and guitars will be great through the LA2A or the Distressors, or the 1968 even. Vocals will be great with any of them, but all for different reasons. |
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25th September 2006, 08:06 PM
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| Mike -- wow, thanks for such detail. Yes, I agree, at this point I'm pretty much ready to buy. But I had begun to think less about the Drawmer 1968, and more about the pair of Dakings for tracking duties as well as mix bus compression. Why would you choose the 1968 over the dakings for the mix bus? It's cheaper, so I wouldn't necessarily mind .. but I've heard heard so many good things about the Dakings as tracking comps as well as mix bus comps, they suddenly became the frontrunner over the 1968 and/or the portico....
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25th September 2006, 09:59 PM
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| Are you guys serious? Would you really recommend a Distressor over an 1176? Wow. And yes, I use the Purples on everything: vox, bass, drums etc. I have Distressors here too (they aren't mine) I don't use them much though. Also I second the recommendation of a pair of dbx 160x/xt's and VP Dynamites, plus a RNC maybe- more great sounding options for little $$, you can't lose. FWIW, I probably use my 160xt's more than I use the Distressors too!
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25th September 2006, 10:35 PM
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26th September 2006, 01:07 AM
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| I'm not gonna recommend a list, but just gonna say i just LLLLLLOOOOOOVE my pair of LA-3As to death... Might be an option to grab a pair of them if you can't get your hands on a suitable LA-2A Here's my bit of encouragement for you - if you've got 9k ready to go now then I am sure you'll have some more money in the future to buy MORE - so at the end of the day just go for it, enjoy 'em, and get those other bits in the future when your next royalty cheque comes in! D __________________ www.damiantaylor.com |
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26th September 2006, 06:59 AM
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The short answer is becuase I've used the 1968 (a lot and I'm happy with it) and I've got basically no time with the Dakings. The little that I've spent with the Daking I've liked, but it's not eough to have an informed opinion. I'll probably end up with a pair within the next year or so. My main point was that when I saw your list with the 1968, the peices snapped together in a familiar puzzle. I know exactly where I'd put everything for a mix if I was at your studio with that gear list. It's a fairly common set up for my taste, although I do start each mix working out pairings of compressors for busses, so its not always that pattern. | |
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26th September 2006, 07:01 AM
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I might check out some blue stripe models in the future, but I'll never use the blackfaces again if I can help it. I like the compression, but not the tone. | |
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16th December 2006, 09:35 PM
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| Personally, I would say that you are being led on the right track. You should definitely get an opto LA-2 OR equivalent with the equivalents including: LA-3 Manley ELOP Buzz SOC The distressor vs. 1176 (or Purple MC) leads toward a conclusion I've made previously. Ideally you need both. So 2 distressors is probably a bad idea if it's at the expense of a 1176 in your arsenal. I also like the look of the Daking and the Trakkers. Both would be more transparent than either the distressor or the 1176. If I was mixing loud hairy music I'd prefer a distressor and 1176. For quieter music like folk I'd probably take the Daking & Trakker. I suppose you could mix and match, a Purple & a Trakker would take you from natty vintage to subtly aged through to clean. But you loose the flexibility of the distressor at the mushed up end of the spectrum. On the buss it's a similar problem. For loud forward music I'd go down the SSL/Smart route. For folk, I'd go for the chandler. I'd prefer either of those to the Drawmer but then they are in a different price league, at least here in the UK. |
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16th December 2006, 10:04 PM
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17th December 2006, 03:28 AM
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| Funny It's funny this thread was just dug up. All of my decisions have been made and the comps have been ordered! My final choices were: •*Chandler TG1 • Thermionic Phoenix • Distressor w/ Brit Mod • Tube Tech CL1B • Purple MC77 All that have gotten here at this point are the TG1/Distressor, but I must say they're quite a handful already and I"m just beginning to learn what these mosnters can do. :-) Others should be here by Christmas. Whee.... Thanks again for all the advice that was given, way back when.
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18th January 2007, 05:13 AM
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18th January 2007, 06:25 AM
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18th January 2007, 06:49 AM
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| Both the phoenix and the CL1B have proven OUTSTANDING on vocals so far. I can't tell you how much I adore these boxes, and it's hard to make them sound bad. The TG1 is a different beast and I can sense it's going to smack me around once I figure it out ... but it's harder to figure out and I admit I definitely haven't tapped it's secret talents yet. Soon I'm sure. So far TG1 really did shine on vocals (you're right) .. but with the Phoenix and the CL1B here too .. it's hard to decide which one gets vocal duties!! It's funny this thread came back up... but I'm happy to report that this thread was extremely helpful in making my decision ... and most of the people here were making dead on comments all the way through. These boxes rule. Thinking about selling the distressor though 
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18th January 2007, 06:59 AM
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18th January 2007, 07:14 AM
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| So what's the verdict on the purple? Have you tried it on vox? |
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18th January 2007, 09:55 AM
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| Thrill -- which tubes should I change the CL1B to? Is it that big of a difference? Because I'm loving it even with the stock tubes ... And as for the purple -- that still hasn't quite made it in here. Hopefully over the next few weeks! I'll report back.
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20th January 2007, 04:45 PM
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| So, I finally understand the TG1. It came to me like the ressurection during a drum bus compression exercise. This thing absolutely KILLS on drum busses. I've never had an experience like that before. The breadth of options is mind numbing. Thanks Chandler. That's the tone I love.
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20th January 2007, 09:16 PM
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| Howzabout: -Pendelum OCL-2 -Daking FETII (pair) (just got em myself.) -API 2500 -Distressor (1) ------------------------------ total somewhere around $8800-9000 by my calcs. This would cover a LOT of ground for me. -Z- |
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20th January 2007, 09:18 PM
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| Uhh.....just noticed that this thread is way old....  Congrats on your purchases, looks sweet. -Z-
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