How do I achieve a sucking transition effect?

ixnys · 15th November 2003

In the song "Can't Change Me" off of Chris Cornell's solo CD, right before verse 1, there is a transition effect between the electric guitars and the acoustic guitars. It sounds like the guitars...maybe even the whole band in general swoops out and sounds like a sucking effedt. How is this achieved, cuz I am looking to perform a similar trick in one of my songs.

I think a similar effect is used in Terminator 2 movie. The intro where white noise is suddenly swooped to nothing. Nothing as in it fades out. Seems like vari-fi might be used here...

DanV · 15th November 2003

I'm not sure about either of the examples you gave.
But I'm fairly sure I know what you are asking.

A few things you can use:
Backwards cymbals, bowed cymbals.
Something through enveloped reverb with a lot of attack,
A signal recorded with a lotta verb, then reversed.
Noisy stuff through filter sweeps, with volume fading in or out,
Some sort of hardcore phasing.
Any combination of these.

Cheers,

ixnys · 16th November 2003

I figured it out. It was just blending a simple reverse crash right before going into the verse. But while we are on the subject, how some other ways to create cool transitions between sections of a song. I've sometimes heard the music have a sucking effect similar to something going down the drain...any ideas of how to achive this type of effect?

jpaudio · 16th November 2003

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Originally posted by ixnys
I figured it out. It was just blending a simple reverse crash right before going into the verse. But while we are on the subject, how some other ways to create cool transitions between sections of a song. I've sometimes heard the music have a sucking effect similar to something going down the drain...any ideas of how to achive this type of effect?

I like to cut a segment of a dirty guitar track, usually holding out a chord that will work for the key of the transition, and fade it in drastically, sometimes reverse the sample too. It's a fun trick but easily overdone.

alphajerk · 17th November 2003

i just did it to a track on this album im mixing and it was a total mind ****. guitar note sustained out that i faded out abruptly with a lead noted fading it in on a pan path, dropping the lead note back out and the rhythm guitar back in all within a second.

ojay · 17th November 2003

For a monitor mix of a track I was playing about with, i setup a Finalizer just before the DAT. I recalled a basic compression patch. I then selected the Telephone patch at the mid 8 and the finalizer morphed between the patches which gave a sort of sucking effect. It worked and sounded very cool.

15th November 2003	#1
ixnys Gear addict Joined: Jul 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 324 Thread Starter	How do I achieve a sucking transition effect? In the song "Can't Change Me" off of Chris Cornell's solo CD, right before verse 1, there is a transition effect between the electric guitars and the acoustic guitars. It sounds like the guitars...maybe even the whole band in general swoops out and sounds like a sucking effedt. How is this achieved, cuz I am looking to perform a similar trick in one of my songs. I think a similar effect is used in Terminator 2 movie. The intro where white noise is suddenly swooped to nothing. Nothing as in it fades out. Seems like vari-fi might be used here...

15th November 2003	#2
DanV Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2003 Location: Brooklyn NYC Posts: 696	I'm not sure about either of the examples you gave. But I'm fairly sure I know what you are asking. A few things you can use: Backwards cymbals, bowed cymbals. Something through enveloped reverb with a lot of attack, A signal recorded with a lotta verb, then reversed. Noisy stuff through filter sweeps, with volume fading in or out, Some sort of hardcore phasing. Any combination of these. Cheers, __________________ easy there tiger, your paper is showing

17th November 2003	#5
alphajerk There is only one Joined: Jun 2002 Location: asheville NC Posts: 5,260	i just did it to a track on this album im mixing and it was a total mind ***. guitar note sustained out that i faded out abruptly with a lead noted fading it in on a pan path, dropping the lead note back out and the rhythm guitar back in all within a second. __________________ "i must invent my own systems or else be enslaved by other men's'" william blake* __________________________ email: barrett [at] alphajerk [dot] com

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16th November 2003	#3
ixnys Gear addict Joined: Jul 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 324 Thread Starter	I figured it out. It was just blending a simple reverse crash right before going into the verse. But while we are on the subject, how some other ways to create cool transitions between sections of a song. I've sometimes heard the music have a sucking effect similar to something going down the drain...any ideas of how to achive this type of effect?

17th November 2003	#6
ojay Gear nut Joined: Nov 2002 Location: London Posts: 80	For a monitor mix of a track I was playing about with, i setup a Finalizer just before the DAT. I recalled a basic compression patch. I then selected the Telephone patch at the mid 8 and the finalizer morphed between the patches which gave a sort of sucking effect. It worked and sounded very cool.