U2 recording at Abbey Road

everglass · 19th September 2006

Hi,

U2's website explains that the band are currently recording new material with producer Rick Rubin at London's Abbey Road studios.

I came across what I thought was an interesting photograph from the sessions - any idea what effect the snare against the kick drum would provide?

thejook · 19th September 2006

That looks to me like a Yamaha (style?) Subkick.

texdc · 19th September 2006

That's not a snare. It's a Yamaha Sub-Kick, and it's very useful.

Adria_BCN · 19th September 2006

It's not a snare. It's Yamaha's subkick mike, to low frecuency stuff.

I'd like to try one... any experiences with it?

zboy2854 · 19th September 2006

I just did a drum session with Lee Levin at his studio, and he uses a Subkick in addition to his inside kick mic. It really helps add the low end to the kick, gives it that nice fullness so you can EQ and compress the inside mic to get the snap and the Subkick for your bottom.

doorknocker · 19th September 2006

The SubKick is great, I use it all the time, but actually this idea 'snare against bassdrum' might be interesting. Gotta try it sometime.

max cooper · 19th September 2006

How about a cocktail drum?

Jim Williams · 19th September 2006

What? No church???

Have U2 lost their faith?

Jim Williams
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octatonic · 19th September 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by doorknocker

The SubKick is great, I use it all the time, but actually this idea 'snare against bassdrum' might be interesting. Gotta try it sometime.

LOL thumbsup

C/G · 19th September 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by doorknocker

The SubKick is great, I use it all the time, but actually this idea 'snare against bassdrum' might be interesting. Gotta try it sometime.

Just in case you didn't get enough snare buzz and rattle in the bass drum track.

On another note, Rick Rubin and U2? Very interesting.

Jack P · 19th September 2006

You can also use a racked DBX subharmonic....

noiseflaw · 19th September 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by texdc

That's not a snare. It's a Yamaha Sub-Kick, and it's very useful.

What Drums, actual drums you can hear ona U2 Album, someone forgot to put the drum Bus Fader up on their last album - drums kept vanishing when the guitar heavy chorus's came in.

Ruudman · 19th September 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin Gaucher

Rick Rubin and U2? Very interesting.

Making me nervous, to be honest

ruudman

zboy2854 · 19th September 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Williams

What? No church???

Have U2 lost their faith?

Jim Williams
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I guess they Still Haven't Found What They're Looking For...

Santiago · 19th September 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by noiseflaw

What Drums, actual drums you can hear ona U2 Album, someone forgot to put the drum Bus Fader up on their last album - drums kept vanishing when the guitar heavy chorus's came in.

God, that is so true. I love Larry Mullen Jr's drums, but in the last record they just couldn't be heard.

Santiago

djui5 · 19th September 2006

Maybe U2 will make a raw record again, not a 50000 track polished pretty fling like the last one.

So, on the drums, we have

OH=C12's
Toms=U87's
Kick=Subkick (didn't see a mic inside?)

What else? Who can spot the mics.

No4PCs · 19th September 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin Gaucher

Just in case you didn't get enough snare buzz and rattle in the bass drum track.

On another note, Rick Rubin and U2? Very interesting.

Bass drum tied with the snare ! Wow
I will try. We can get 2 "different" bass drum sounds in 2 different tracks, then blend it !
1 sound pure bass drum, other sound bass drum+snare sound...i think this last will sound like the 70s bass drum+snare disco style !

More easy than tye the bass drum in the snare !

Jules · 19th September 2006

I wonder what they are using my 1073 pair on..? Because they are renting it for these sessions

OHA · 19th September 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by zboy2854

I guess they Still Haven't Found What They're Looking For...

nobtwiddler · 19th September 2006

Rick is also there producing Green Day in the other studio...
Just spoke with their manager
Not bad ehh....

Paul

bit mangler · 20th September 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by everglass

Hi,

U2's website explains that the band are currently recording new material with producer Rick Rubin at London's Abbey Road studios.

I came across what I thought was an interesting photograph from the sessions - any idea what effect the snare against the kick drum would provide?

Our very own mwagener uses it and here is a link from the skidrow thread

Alexi · 20th September 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by nobtwiddler

Rick is also there producing Green Day in the other studio...
Just spoke with their manager
Not bad ehh....

Paul

are you serious about that Paul?

cheers

alex

Jetblack · 20th September 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by djui5

Maybe U2 will make a raw record again, not a 50000 track polished pretty fling like the last one.

So, on the drums, we have

OH=C12's
Toms=U87's
Kick=Subkick (didn't see a mic inside?)

What else? Who can spot the mics.

Is that a tube stairmaster in the background?

flail19 · 20th September 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetblack

Is that a tube stairmaster in the background?

News flash, it looks as if U2 aren't recording at Abbey Road after all. They are recording in my basement.

Anyway, joking aside I think this is a cool thread...thanks for the pic and Jules that isd very cool about them renting your 1073!

thejook · 20th September 2006

Abbey Road doesn't *own* a pair of 1073s?

Wow Jules, I think this means you can *technically* put U2 on your client list! Sweet! (Here comes the sarcasm now): I think Fletcher would agree that since they're tracking through 1073s this will *definitely* be a great record.

I too hope they make another 'raw' record. They've been describing every record they've made since Pop as 'raw' and 'back to basics' which we unfortunately learn every time means 'safe' and 'a shadow of their former greatness.'

I used to not think lyrics mattered, but I think it actually can make an otherwise great song into a piece of junk. At a certain point, rock stars just run out of things to talk about. Compare the lyrics of their last album to, say, even Zooropa (comparing it to War or The Joshua Tree would just be not fair). "Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah!" just doesn't do it for me.

Coldplay fell into that trap too, I think. Chris Martin is **ing a gorgeous actress and naming babies as a hobby and just doesn't really have much to say anymore.

Oh yeah. We're talking about the subkick. I haven't tried one, but I've never had a problem getting a kick to sound killer with proper tuning and a D112 in, Fet 47 out. I have an early 90s pair of Tama Artstar 22" maple kicks that just f'n rule. I've also found that when mixing, I try to get the sub OUT of my kick (I roll off at like 70) and let the bass guitar live down there.

RoundBadge · 20th September 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by thejook

Abbey Road doesn't *own* a pair of 1073s?

Even places like Abbey Road get busy and needs to subrent stuff..especially with green day ,,etc tracking there too.
I rent stuff to studios all the time here in LAthumbsup

djui5 · 20th September 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jules

I wonder what they are using my 1073 pair on..? Because they are renting it for these sessions

Get RR to sign it!!!

Man, U2 and Green Day, at the same time, at Abbey Road. RR's on a roll! Lucky bastard.

MrVelvet · 20th September 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruudman

Making me nervous, to be honest

ruudman

Me too... Rick Rubin productions tend to sound thin and squeezed to me (except for the Cash productions). The recent U2 stuff (since Achtung Baby) sounded thin and squeezed to me... Just my taste I guess, but nevertheless... If you put those two together, I hope they don't add up like that

Quote:

Originally Posted by thejook

Abbey Road doesn't *own* a pair of 1073s?

I used to not think lyrics mattered, but I think it actually can make an otherwise great song into a piece of junk. At a certain point, rock stars just run out of things to talk about. Compare the lyrics of their last album to, say, even Zooropa (comparing it to War or The Joshua Tree would just be not fair). "Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah!" just doesn't do it for me.

Yeah - it seems like once they realized their long-term impact on the music world, something changes... Sad to see this happening on the latest Coldplay record, too, though I now love that record after hearing it for a year...

PhilE · 20th September 2006

Haha yeah Jules they've got SO much stuff in there- 24 1093s that my mates put in there, your 1073s not to mention a whole host of others.

Jack P · 20th September 2006

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tLV1SW5u8Y

Here's some footage of them at Abbey Road...

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zboy2854 Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2003 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 7,941	I just did a drum session with Lee Levin at his studio, and he uses a Subkick in addition to his inside kick mic. It really helps add the low end to the kick, gives it that nice fullness so you can EQ and compress the inside mic to get the snap and the Subkick for your bottom. __________________ What the wise man does in the beginning, fools do in the end. --Warren Buffett The four most expensive words in the English language are: "This time it's different." --John Marks Templeton

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thejook Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 569	Abbey Road doesn't own a pair of 1073s? Wow Jules, I think this means you can technically put U2 on your client list! Sweet! (Here comes the sarcasm now): I think Fletcher would agree that since they're tracking through 1073s this will definitely be a great record. I too hope they make another 'raw' record. They've been describing every record they've made since Pop as 'raw' and 'back to basics' which we unfortunately learn every time means 'safe' and 'a shadow of their former greatness.' I used to not think lyrics mattered, but I think it actually can make an otherwise great song into a piece of junk. At a certain point, rock stars just run out of things to talk about. Compare the lyrics of their last album to, say, even Zooropa (comparing it to War or The Joshua Tree would just be not fair). "Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah!" just doesn't do it for me. Coldplay fell into that trap too, I think. Chris Martin is **ing a gorgeous actress and naming babies as a hobby and just doesn't really have much to say anymore. Oh yeah. We're talking about the subkick. I haven't tried one, but I've never had a problem getting a kick to sound killer with proper tuning and a D112 in, Fet 47 out. I have an early 90s pair of Tama Artstar 22" maple kicks that just f'n rule. I've also found that when mixing, I try to get the sub OUT of my kick (I roll off at like 70) and let the bass guitar live down there.

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PhilE Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,260	Haha yeah Jules they've got SO much stuff in there- 24 1093s that my mates put in there, your 1073s not to mention a whole host of others.

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