weirdest thing ever

orksnork · 13th September 2006, 07:20 PM

so after a few days of chirp chirp chirp...i want to blow my control room up because of this cricket...
anyways....i restart my computer and im wearing a pair of headphones...

there is no open mic to be had...and there is no sound of cricket in the room

it's coming from my gear!!! what i am thinking is a cricket...is actually sounds coming out of my monitors when they're on

what in gods name is going on
is there the demon of a cricket in my board or something?

max cooper · 13th September 2006, 07:22 PM

Sounds like you could have a bit of RF interference.

Someone's burgular alarm or something is putting out a regular pulse.

dbbubba · 13th September 2006, 07:25 PM

mis-matched clock settings can produce some strange high freq. noises, too.

DB

Fajita · 13th September 2006, 07:34 PM

where is your cell phone? close to an amp?

orksnork · 13th September 2006, 07:37 PM

definitely not the cell phone...and clocks are good

if it's RF interference...what can i do??? move things around in the room and try and get away from it??

pulse_divider · 13th September 2006, 08:38 PM

Ha, I know what you mean. My basement studio gets a cricket choir at certain times of the year (like now).
They like their moment in the spotlight and tend to perform beautifully when I work with them. I just cut a track that I didn't know needed crickets on it, but they add that final 1% that finish it off!
Of course, it sucks if they're all over everything... but I swear if I "let" them sing on a track, they stay out of the way for the other tracks!

But yeah, it sounds more like you have some sort of interference going on, though a real cricket sound is pretty hard to mistake. What monitors are you using? I have a pair of KRK Rokits that are the biggest pieces of crap and randomly generate noisy bursts not too far from a cricket sound. They're awful, and this is a replacement pair after returning the originals that never worked correctly out of the box...

There's also the possibility that someone's playing a prank on you. Are you the sole operator?

Dave Peck · 13th September 2006, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orksnork

so after a few days of chirp chirp chirp...i want to blow my control room up because of this cricket...
anyways....i restart my computer and im wearing a pair of headphones...

there is no open mic to be had...and there is no sound of cricket in the room

it's coming from my gear!!! what i am thinking is a cricket...is actually sounds coming out of my monitors when they're on

what in gods name is going on
is there the demon of a cricket in my board or something?

That IS weird... Best of luck tracking it down. I suppose it could be worse, though. At least cricket noises aren't too obnoxious. It could be armpit farts. Or accordions.

DP

jchas · 13th September 2006, 08:50 PM

Years ago I had a keyboard (Korg Lambda) that developed a cricket which was associated with the onboard chorus circuit. I had a capacitor replaced by a local tech and it killed the cricket. A few years later an FX module (I think it was an Effectron Jr. but I could be wrong) started doing the same thing. Again the tech fixed it by replacing a cap. Even something as simple as having a clocked FX on a Aux return that's turned up could give you that effect. Try turning off one thing at a time to narrow it down.

Berolzheimer · 13th September 2006, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchas

Years ago I had a keyboard (Korg Lambda) that developed a cricket which was associated with the onboard chorus circuit. I had a capacitor replaced by a local tech and it killed the cricket. A few years later an FX module (I think it was an Effectron Jr. but I could be wrong) started doing the same thing. Again the tech fixed it by replacing a cap. Even something as simple as having a clocked FX on a Aux return that's turned up could give you that effect. Try turning off one thing at a time to narrow it down.

I think I had an Effectron do this once too. Maybe also a Prime Time.

sedohr · 13th September 2006, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pulse_divider

I have a pair of KRK Rokits that are the biggest pieces of crap and randomly generate noisy bursts not too far from a cricket sound. They're awful,...

Strange how "KRK Rokits" sounds like "Crickets" .......Coincidence ?

orksnork · 14th September 2006, 05:27 AM

the monitors are event tr8s...and there's no one to be playing a joke on me...

LUCKILY, i think it is somewhere in the playback chain...so none of this is being laid down....i'll play around with it again tomorrow and start taking piece by piece out and seeing where i end up...

the1Hub · 14th September 2006, 05:31 AM

do you happen to have yor computers sound card plugged into a mixer. i get this same sound when i have to listen to refrence tracks from my computer while protools is up.

narco · 14th September 2006, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedohr

Strange how "KRK Rokits" sounds like "Crickets" .......Coincidence ?

lol

I used to have a dave brubek quartet cd of a live concert at some jazz festival in the 80's or 90's. They play this quiet piece with the melody on a bass trombone and the audience is so quiet you can hear the crickets in the background. its amazing.

good luck finding the problem. it sounds like a case of unplugging stuff randomly to find out wahts causing it..

narco

e-cue · 14th September 2006, 06:06 AM

I think the Son of Sam had a similar problem.

When you say it comes out when your speakers are on, do you mean without any audio being played? You say it's only on playback. Are you using tape? If so, do you use SMPTE? If not, do you have anything that might be crosstalking or bleeding timecode into the chain somewhere? How clean is your power? 5 power extenders plugged into an extension cord? Are you certain you are clocked correctly (with everything sending and receiving the correct sample rate)? A common mistake is to set the clock to a sample rate, then reference it to video if locking several devices up. Used to see this all the time with Lynx's. Are you certain your clock isn't corrupt? This is one of the reasons I try to stay clocked internal as much as possible.

Also, you might wanna add what the topic is about in your thread title next time. Just a suggestion.

simonv · 14th September 2006, 05:40 PM

Sounds like it could be caused by a hard drive and grounding problems...

Does it sound anything like this MP3?

If so, try shutting down the computers and see if it disappears

Confusionator · 14th September 2006, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e-cue

I think the Son of Sam had a similar problem.

LOL. Quote of the day!

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13th September 2006, 07:22 PM	#2
max cooper Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: tx Posts: 8,819	Sounds like you could have a bit of RF interference. Someone's burgular alarm or something is putting out a regular pulse.

13th September 2006, 07:25 PM	#3
dbbubba Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,248	mis-matched clock settings can produce some strange high freq. noises, too. DB

13th September 2006, 07:37 PM	#5
orksnork Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: long island, ny Posts: 741	definitely not the cell phone...and clocks are good if it's RF interference...what can i do??? move things around in the room and try and get away from it??

13th September 2006, 08:38 PM	#6
pulse_divider Gear maniac Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 298	Ha, I know what you mean. My basement studio gets a cricket choir at certain times of the year (like now). They like their moment in the spotlight and tend to perform beautifully when I work with them. I just cut a track that I didn't know needed crickets on it, but they add that final 1% that finish it off! Of course, it sucks if they're all over everything... but I swear if I "let" them sing on a track, they stay out of the way for the other tracks! But yeah, it sounds more like you have some sort of interference going on, though a real cricket sound is pretty hard to mistake. What monitors are you using? I have a pair of KRK Rokits that are the biggest pieces of crap and randomly generate noisy bursts not too far from a cricket sound. They're awful, and this is a replacement pair after returning the originals that never worked correctly out of the box... There's also the possibility that someone's playing a prank on you. Are you the sole operator?

13th September 2006, 08:50 PM	#8
jchas Gear addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 496	Years ago I had a keyboard (Korg Lambda) that developed a cricket which was associated with the onboard chorus circuit. I had a capacitor replaced by a local tech and it killed the cricket. A few years later an FX module (I think it was an Effectron Jr. but I could be wrong) started doing the same thing. Again the tech fixed it by replacing a cap. Even something as simple as having a clocked FX on a Aux return that's turned up could give you that effect. Try turning off one thing at a time to narrow it down.

14th September 2006, 05:27 AM	#11
orksnork Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: long island, ny Posts: 741	the monitors are event tr8s...and there's no one to be playing a joke on me... LUCKILY, i think it is somewhere in the playback chain...so none of this is being laid down....i'll play around with it again tomorrow and start taking piece by piece out and seeing where i end up...

14th September 2006, 06:06 AM	#14
e-cue Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 3,895	I think the Son of Sam had a similar problem. When you say it comes out when your speakers are on, do you mean without any audio being played? You say it's only on playback. Are you using tape? If so, do you use SMPTE? If not, do you have anything that might be crosstalking or bleeding timecode into the chain somewhere? How clean is your power? 5 power extenders plugged into an extension cord? Are you certain you are clocked correctly (with everything sending and receiving the correct sample rate)? A common mistake is to set the clock to a sample rate, then reference it to video if locking several devices up. Used to see this all the time with Lynx's. Are you certain your clock isn't corrupt? This is one of the reasons I try to stay clocked internal as much as possible. Also, you might wanna add what the topic is about in your thread title next time. Just a suggestion.