Subgroup Compression and Test Tones

numrologst · 6th September 2006

I am curious as to what this following thread is talking about:

subgroup compression: who sends tones?

I get the gest of what is going on.. And I read the Brauer article that they are talking about. But I would like some elaboration on this technique, and in depth info about what this does.

Maybe we couldhave a little discussion about gain structure and how this helps.

thanks

numrologst · 7th September 2006

Come on guys

numrologst · 8th September 2006

is it something i said?

but really come on slutz, I want some info about test tones

studjo · 8th September 2006

poor guy - I think there aren't that many that use test tones for setting up compressors (and I think it's a strange concept because it doesn't account for your ears on side of your head)

but I admit to use test tones for setting up group compression - but I just make sure that what I put in is exactly what comes out. So I send 0dB and make sure the distressor (or any other comp) puts 0dB out. MB explains it way better than I ever could - read it there and try it for yourself.

Jo

numrologst · 9th September 2006

thanks studjo

Worlez · 6th October 2006

I'm slightly confused by this...

Working within Pro Tools, I usually send a 1khz tone at -6db out to my buss/group compressors. Do I then adjust the input so that the IN meter on the compressor is at -6db, set my gain reduction, then raise the output so that the OUT meter on the compressor returns to -6db.

Or do you set the output so that the compressors meter is matches with the gain reduction?

-6db was just plucked out to ensure I maintain enough headroom when mixing ITB, so that I can ride instruments up with a little bit of room on the compressor etc.

Cheers for the help guys.

Al

Worlez · 6th October 2006

Bump!

Al

Worlez · 8th October 2006

Bump

Al

Worlez · 11th October 2006

Al

6th September 2006	#1
numrologst Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 1,955 Thread Starter	Subgroup Compression and Test Tones I am curious as to what this following thread is talking about: subgroup compression: who sends tones? I get the gest of what is going on.. And I read the Brauer article that they are talking about. But I would like some elaboration on this technique, and in depth info about what this does. Maybe we couldhave a little discussion about gain structure and how this helps. thanks

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7th September 2006	#2
numrologst Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 1,955 Thread Starter	Come on guys

8th September 2006	#3
numrologst Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 1,955 Thread Starter	is it something i said? but really come on slutz, I want some info about test tones

8th September 2006	#4
studjo Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 2,414	poor guy - I think there aren't that many that use test tones for setting up compressors (and I think it's a strange concept because it doesn't account for your ears on side of your head) but I admit to use test tones for setting up group compression - but I just make sure that what I put in is exactly what comes out. So I send 0dB and make sure the distressor (or any other comp) puts 0dB out. MB explains it way better than I ever could - read it there and try it for yourself. Jo

9th September 2006	#5
numrologst Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 1,955 Thread Starter	thanks studjo

6th October 2006	#6
Worlez Lives for gear Joined: May 2006 Location: Liverpool, UK Posts: 562	I'm slightly confused by this... Working within Pro Tools, I usually send a 1khz tone at -6db out to my buss/group compressors. Do I then adjust the input so that the IN meter on the compressor is at -6db, set my gain reduction, then raise the output so that the OUT meter on the compressor returns to -6db. Or do you set the output so that the compressors meter is matches with the gain reduction? -6db was just plucked out to ensure I maintain enough headroom when mixing ITB, so that I can ride instruments up with a little bit of room on the compressor etc. Cheers for the help guys. Al

8th October 2006	#8
Worlez Lives for gear Joined: May 2006 Location: Liverpool, UK Posts: 562	Bump Al

11th October 2006	#9
Worlez Lives for gear Joined: May 2006 Location: Liverpool, UK Posts: 562	Al