Floyd/Wizard of Oz

[theblue1]

Originally Posted by DarkSky

Heh. Reza, nothing ever sinks up. Even in the northern hemisphere things have a tendency to sink downwards.

I used to think that -- but just look at who's in the WH.

[theblue1]

Originally Posted by dbbubba

I have never tried the DSOTM and Wizzard of Oz thing, but it always reminds me of how in the late '60s/early '70s everyone wanted those color organ things. I built my own using Christmas tree lights crammed in a box withe the same diffused plexiglas front panel. Of course my version didn't have the "mystery" color organ circuit from Radio Shack, but when you'd play a record (Inna Gadda Davida was good) and stared long enough... THE LIGHTS DID SEEM TO BLINK WITH THE MUSIC!


Danny Brown

Yeah... I made one, too. Instead of the front panel diffuser, though, I made it "projection" style. I used a cardboard box and cut little stars and moons and flowers (ah, the 60s) in the sides and top and then turned out the lights. As the jumble of Christmas lights blinked [independently] inside, the stars and moons were pojected over and over in different parts of the room [different angles from the multiple lights] in a continually varying set of patterns. I was still a "good kid" back then but it was kinda psychedelic, anyhow... if you sort of tried hard.

For a short time in college I was hanging out with this guy whose "hobby" it was to sit in the on-campus beer bar [it opened at 11 am, leaving many of us early risers wondering what we were gonna do for a drink after that 8 am class], put on "Come Together" on the jukebox and watch people "synchronize" walking with it -- even, he said, when they were outside the windows and couldn't possibly hear the music. It was "eery" he said.

I said, have another beer.

[AlexLakis]

A songwriting partner of mine and I once had a project to create an album that synced up perfectly to Transformers: The Movie. We got about 50 minutes thru it before we gave up (NO JOKE!)

[Sounds Great]

Originally Posted by dbbubba

Let's see... DSOTM came out in 1973?
People started talking about this when?
Six or seven years ago was the first I heard of it.

This was talked about long before that. 90's at least, possibly 80's?

[Sizzleboy]

Originally Posted by Sounds Great

This was talked about long before that. 90's at least, possibly 80's?

I heard about it in high school in the mid 80s, but I hadn't seen it till now, and there are only a few points that really sync up to me:

Witch at "black"

Scarecrow flipping out during "lunitic"

tin man heart beat,

and a couple of scene changes.

Now I know that tape was cut up like crazy during final editing, so it is possible that it was planned, but you gotta remember, that this thing came out on records that had a long intro silence and had to be flipped over half way through! Do you think Parsons and Waters really had the forsight in '73 to see VHSs and CDs being the popular medium of choice that would allow this trick?

NOT!

[natpub]

Originally Posted by dbbubba

NATPUB.... FZ would be so dissappointed in you for taking the drugs that allows you to "see" that when Billy and Ethyl trek across the desert from out near bleak Rosamond and Gorman which IS out in back of Palmdale where the TURKey farmers run...YOU my son, have such vison!...Maybe this is why Zappa produced Burt Ward's record!

I died laughing over that one Natpub!
Good good good!

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I feel like you are someone I know in disquise pulling one over on me personally!

Danny Brown

Danny,

I re-live this reply in my sleep.

Yep, I think we probably know each other.

But, not in this life, haha!

Yes, I know FZ would pout that I tripped on his truth as a child, but if you look at my bio (sonicsorcerystudios.com) you will see Frank and I finally made peace--though he did sharply criticize my drastic use of trombones!!

PM me if you like, I am always ready to....

Hack!!....HACK HACK.......up a boulder...HACK HACK HACK!!!..up a boulder....


I have some funny stories from the time being his student, some of which I have posted here. I am fading as a GS these days, so get em while you can, lol.

Music expounds all, as we arrive at the "second attention..."

no more for this typing, pfft

back to erasing personal history...[backspace...backspace...backspace.. . hmmm...edit...delete???....hmm...nahhhhhh.....fk it.]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]

[Led]

As with everything in the world, there's a site devoted to this and other movies:
http://www.synchronicityarkive.com/

[Stizz]

Yeah, the Dark Side of OZ, is kinda cool, but thanks for getting my head back to Billy the Mountain!

"Howard Johnson's! Howard Johnson's! Wanna eat some clams?"

"La La La nice lady "

"Royalties, royalties! The royalty check is in, honey!"

"And he pulled down his blue denim policeman-type trouser pants, and he spread even amounts of Aunt Jemima maple syrup all over the inside of his legs!"

"A mountain is something you don't wanna fvck with"

Been at least 20 years since I have listened to that - maybe it's time again...

[natpub]

Originally Posted by Stizz

Yeah, the Dark Side of OZ, is kinda cool, but thanks for getting my head back to Billy the Mountain!

"Howard Johnson's! Howard Johnson's! Wanna eat some clams?"

"La La La nice lady "

"Royalties, royalties! The royalty check is in, honey!"

"And he pulled down his blue denim policeman-type trouser pants, and he spread even amounts of Aunt Jemima maple syrup all over the inside of his legs!"

"A mountain is something you don't wanna fvck with"

Been at least 20 years since I have listened to that - maybe it's time again...

Stizz, you rule...Yes, it's time!

Perhaps we should discuss poodles...hmm...or Ruth...hmm....nah...outta respect for the ShipMan, best we do another thread:-)

Still, this all reminds me that I need more tuned percussion in my life!!!! Vibes Own! Lionel Hampton, here we come...and...wheeeeeeeeeeeeee!!

[natpub]

Originally Posted by Stizz

"And he pulled down his blue denim policeman-type trouser pants, and he spread even amounts of Aunt Jemima maple syrup all over the inside of his legs!"

this is fkucing classic...jaysus

it requires zirconium encusted tweezers just to begin...gleaming in the moonlight...

moving to montana soon?

tears from my eyes, damn, poor flo & eddie, no royalties for them, eh?

hmm..perhaps from "Happy Together?"

[Mark Warren]

So what's up Ship?

Did you actually try it out on your own and experience the trippy coincidences?

[u b k]

Originally Posted by Sizzleboy

Do you think Parsons and Waters really had the forsight in '73 to see VHSs and CDs being the popular medium of choice that would allow this trick?

you forgot about tape, which can sync up to another machine and can play all the way through an album like dsotm. there was also film, which can be scored to. not saying i believe that's what they did, just saying it was technologically simple to achieve.

as for points that sync up, there are websites with lists of the dozens and dozens of things that line up; some are a stretch, but many are very high on the 'wow' factor. one of my favorites that comes to mind is 'balanced on the biggest wave' while dorothy is walking along the fence top with her arms out at her side, balancing her weight as she walks unsteadily.


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[dbbubba]

Like I said, they went to all that trouble and then kept quiet about it until some people smokin' dope "saw" it.

That's the way it always works.

Danny Brown

[max cooper]

Originally Posted by natpub

Zappa's "Billy the Mountain" follows any/every episode of the 60's "Batman" TV series beautifully. Talk about lip sync:P Ya just gotta see Robin say, in perfect sync, "...and Ethel was a tree, sitting on his shoulder..."

i worked with Adam West back in the nineties. The first time he spoke I was mesmerized. That voice of his is spooky. I had him record an answering machine message for me.

Originally Posted by dbbubba

How could they have created it in sync at Abbey Road anyways?
Sync what to the 16 track? A film? A 1" video... no it'd have to have been a 2" quad machine. It's have been too hit or miss and never truely in sync.

Yes, I'm with you on this. When all those stoners read your post, they collectively said "woah! Bummer, dude!"

[Guidotoons]

I much prefer syncing "Uncle Meat" by Zappa to "On The Waterfront".

Guido

[corworld]

I first heard about the DSOTM/OZ connection about ten years ago and was blown away. Later I saw a program on public access made by a conspiracy theorist who played the entire sync with a commentary, pointing out connections every couple of seconds. I thought this was taking it too far, looking for any speck of meaning.

I also remember reading how nobody knew about the sync until videotapes became widespead in the 80's. Why PF would have done this in 73' for their own amusement makes no sense.

This makes me think about Synchronicity, the concept of a meaningful coincidence of two or more ideas. The meaning of course comes from us. Tempos and lyrics matching may or may not be unexplainable but it would make more sense to people if there was a meaning behind it all.

I think the sync is unexplainable and therefore it scares people who feel compelled to explain it with a causal relationship.

[u b k]

Originally Posted by corworld

I think the sync is unexplainable and therefore it scares people who feel compelled to explain it with a causal relationship.

i think you could replace the word 'sync' with 'everything' and put a whole lotta stuff into perspective .


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