Lexicon LXP15 vs. Lexicon LXP15 II

[Alexi]

hey guys,


short question over here......are there any differences between those models soundwise?

I guess the LXP15 II is just a little quieter than the original LXP15..........would you mind sharing your experiences with those units?


I need an outboard Reverb........this is going to be my first one.............mainly for drums.


cheers




Alex

[Alexi]

anyone?

thrill?




cheers........this is kind of urgent



Alex

[Jay Kahrs]

For a 'verb you can do better. The LXP-15 has a great chorus patch in there and is a pretty solid multi-FX box but I always thought the 'verb was mid-fi to lo-fi. Obviously the PCM 70 & greater kick it's butt, but even the MPX-1 is a bit hipper overall. A little quieter, better quality of sounds...display is a little funkier though. That one IMO falls between the PCM 80 & the LXP-15II.

Mind you, not that the verb is horrible or anything and it might well be on par or still better then any of the plug-ins and Lexicons newer offerings...but it was never anything to write home about.

If it's $250 or so it's a good deal.

Any more then that and I'd have to rethink it. Maybe score a Roland like the SRV 330 if it's just for verb.

[Slipperman]

LXP-15II is true stereo in and out, if memory serves me.

LXP-15 is mono in, "pseudo-stereo" out.

I always liked both those boxes for 'weirdo utility' tasks... like clean guitar chorus or strange vocal "bump-button" stunts. Still got them and the other old cheapies(LXP-1 and 5 with the bizarro MIDI remote thingie) kicking around.

I'll use them on principle alone.

WHAT that 'principle' IS...? I have NO IDEA.

Probably just the old.. "We're ancient, archaic and forgotten... and nobody in their right mind will use us" thing I love to include on EVERYTHING that crosses my desk at some point in the process.

Hence me having the Publison Infernal Machine 90 on the bvox as I type this.

Sounds like raging plastic jellyfish snarking helium whippets.

HOHOHO.

Best,

SM.

[George Necola]

I'll use them on principle alone.

WHAT that 'principle' IS...? I have NO IDEA.

Probably just the old.. "We're ancient, archaic and forgotten... and nobody in their right mind will use us" thing I love to include on EVERYTHING that crosses my desk at some point in the process.

Hence me having the Publison Infernal Machine 90 on the bvox as I type this.

Sounds like raging plastic jellyfish snarking helium whippets.

HOHOHO.

Best,

SM.
_______

you rule slippi

[Jim Williams]

The Type II is just a software revision, the hardware is the same for both. I use mine for drum ambiences, when applied carefully, it can "sell" the listener that it was done in a nice space. Then again, mine is reworked pretty well on the innards...

Jim Williams
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[lucey]

Jims mod makes the Lxp 15-ii sound more real on drum rooms than the PCM 80/90 ... good use of $150 thumbsup

[Alexi]

Originally Posted by slipperman

LXP-15II is true stereo in and out, if memory serves me.

LXP-15 is mono in, "pseudo-stereo" out.

I always liked both those boxes for 'weirdo utility' tasks... like clean guitar chorus or strange vocal "bump-button" stunts. Still got them and the other old cheapies(LXP-1 and 5 with the bizarro MIDI remote thingie) kicking around.

I'll use them on principle alone.

WHAT that 'principle' IS...? I have NO IDEA.

Probably just the old.. "We're ancient, archaic and forgotten... and nobody in their right mind will use us" thing I love to include on EVERYTHING that crosses my desk at some point in the process.

Hence me having the Publison Infernal Machine 90 on the bvox as I type this.

Sounds like raging plastic jellyfish snarking helium whippets.

HOHOHO.

Best,

SM.

can you perform the "pcm42 vocal compression" with the unit?

[Dinosaur_Dave]

As the LXP-15 IS mono IN, my guitar is the perfect input. I use a Roland volume pedal to control FX, and a Roland MIDI selector box to remotely control program changes. I have a dozen distinct presets loaded into my LXP-15, all stereo out, thru 500 watts,into a pair of Yamaha systems. My CT4-R gives the 6L6 pair sound, and the FX are stereo. All controls (pgm, footswitch, and vario-pedal) are by the mic stand.
In my book, the LXP-15 is perfect, except for the fact that a PCM-60 would make a better "room" de-resonator.

[larry b]

Hey Dave

Your font size could be a bit larger as i cant read anything you have to say.

[RTR]

I have herd that the 15 II is way better, and sounds like their high end pieces...I have been trying to find one for a long time and never have any luck!!

[Jim Williams]

The LXP-15 has a 50k ohm input impedance. That's too low for passive electric guitars which require a 1 meg ohm input impedance to prevent loading. The result will be both a loss of level and a severe high end roll-off. Active electric guitars or a buffer before the LXP will prevent that.

I find them best used in the amp's effects loop, post overdrive.

Jim Williams
Audio Upgrades

[boot_me]

Originally Posted by RTR

I have herd that the 15 II is way better, and sounds like their high end pieces...I have been trying to find one for a long time and never have any luck!!

You are in luck!

LEXICON LXP 15II Reverb delay rack effect eventide pcm - eBay (item 220405259273 end time May-05-09 18:50:53 PDT)

[seancostello]

Anyone know of a source for the replacement ROMs to turn a LXP-15 into an LXP-15 II? Lexicon no longer stocks these (I asked).

According to an old Sound On Sound article, the LXP-15 II has denser reverb algorithms.

Thanks,

Sean

[reddirt]

Guys, I perservered with mine (new) added the new Rom etc but at the end of a long effort to get the verb I had hoped for I felt it just wasn't up to it. Personally I wouldn't bother chasing one down - I liked the LXP1 and figured the 15 would be an improved version of that but it wasn't .
There's better options for cheap rev quality e.g their Reflex or 550.
Cheers, Ross

[ivansc]

I bought an Alex and then an MPX100 & was mildly impressed with both, then bought a used LXP15 Mk2 and it still sits in my rack. A lot better sounding than it ought to be for its age.
Now if I could afford something better, I`d go for it but for the €100 I paid, it does me.

[wallyburger]

Originally Posted by Jay Kahrs

For a 'verb you can do better. The LXP-15 has a great chorus patch in there and is a pretty solid multi-FX box but I always thought the 'verb was mid-fi to lo-fi. Obviously the PCM 70 & greater kick it's butt, but even the MPX-1 is a bit hipper overall. A little quieter, better quality of sounds...display is a little funkier though. That one IMO falls between the PCM 80 & the LXP-15II.

Mind you, not that the verb is horrible or anything and it might well be on par or still better then any of the plug-ins and Lexicons newer offerings...but it was never anything to write home about.

If it's $250 or so it's a good deal.

Any more then that and I'd have to rethink it. Maybe score a Roland like the SRV 330 if it's just for verb.

I've just bought one of these, an LXP 15 (not, the MK11)
I agree with everything you say more or less, it is particularly uninspiring !
I also thought it would be better than my LXP1, it isn't.
As we all know, it's horses for courses, but I like a nice realistic natural reverb, and this doesn't do that. I find Glaceverb, for acoustic spaces so much more "real" than the Lex, for other duties such as far-out spaces I don't think you can beat the Spacemaster in Reaktor.
I'm only going to be using the Lexicon to process one synth, so it's not going to get used that much for everything, thank God for that ! And thank God it was cheap !!

WB.